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S U M M A R Y
DIARY: September 10, 1999 02:10 PM Friday;
Rod Welch
Meeting with Craig Boulris, MD at Kaiser on knees.
1...Summary/Objective
2...Xrays on Knees and Medical History Not Submitted to Boulris
3...Email Hampers Management, Need Communication Metrics for Web Mail
4...Doctor Does Not Have Time to Review Medical History on the Web
5...Xray Knees Radiology Department
6...Patient Account Card Switched Medical Mistakes Radiology Department
7...Medical Mistakes Radiology Department Patient Account Card Switched
8...Radiology Department Patient Account Card Switched Medical Mistakes
9...Left Knee Moderate Degenerative Arthritis Right Knee Less Severe
10...Xray Findings Moderate Narrowing Calcification Osteophytes Left Knee
11...Osteoarthritis Calcification Bone Spurs Fills Gap Removed Cartilage Left Knee
12...Degenerative Arthritis Can Only Get Worse Left and Right Knee Joints
13...Cortisone Not Recommended Pain Relief Does Not Prevent Continued Failure of Knee
14...Pain Relief Does Not Prevent Continued Failure of Knee Cortisone Not Recommended
15...Knee Replacement Needed in 10 Years Without High Stress Activity
16...Cartilage Replacement Still Experimental; No Effective Cure
17...Injection Therapies Treat Isolated Pockets Not General Arthritis
18...Hyaluronic Acid Treatment with Synvisc
19...Muscle Strength, Some Pill Therapies are Helpful to Knee Joints
20...Craig said Glucosamine Chondroitin pills has been found effective for
21...Medical Chart Progress Notes Orthopedic Surgery Consultation
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CONTACTS
0201 - Kaiser Permante
020101 - Dr. Craig Boulris, M.D.; Orthopedic Surgon
020102 - Orthopedic Department
SUBJECTS
Email Fails Examination Xray Medical Records Lost Collaboration Meet
1403 -
1403 - ..
1404 - Summary/Objective
1405 -
140501 - Follow up ref SDS 60 0000, ref SDS 59 0000.
140502 -
140503 - Craig recommended a particular oral medication, ref SDS 0 9633, to
140504 - supplement exercise that builds strength, as treatment of knee
140505 - problems. Knee replacement may be needed in 10 years on left leg.
140506 - ref SDS 0 9733 He will submit a report confirming the name of the
140507 - medication and other findings. The examination was delayed and
140508 - incomplete because medical history and xrays were not submitted in
140509 - time for Craig to prepare for the meeting. Craig said Kaiser's
140510 - policies prevent giving his email address to expedite communication
140511 - with web mail. He is worried that getting medical history via web
140512 - mail will not be effective because he does not have a good way to use
140513 - this information to guide a medical examination. I will work with
140514 - Patient Assistance to solve this problem. ref SDS 0 2040 Since the
140515 - medical records were not provided, Craig ordered another set of xrays,
140516 - and this resulted in another mistake when the Kaiser ID was switched
140517 - with another patient. ref SDS 0 6305 After this was resolved, got
140518 - good advice on treatment options, and developed ideas for follow up.
140519 - ref SDS 0 7388
140520 -
140521 - [On 990913 submitted record to Craig. ref SDS 63 7728]
140523 - ..
140524 - [On 990916 record forwarded to Craig. ref SDS 65 0001]
140526 - ..
140527 - ..
140528 - [On 990927 submitted issues from report. ref SDS 68 0001]
140530 - ..
140531 - [On 990928 Craig received issues from report. ref SDS 69 0001]
140533 - ..
140534 - [On 991011 Craig submitted clarifications. ref SDS 73 0001]
140536 - ..
140537 - [On 000124 follow up examination. ref SDS 78 0001
140538 -
140539 -
140541 - ..
1406 -
1407 -
1408 - Progress
1409 -
140901 - Xrays on Knees and Medical History Not Submitted to Boulris
140902 -
140903 - Follow up ref SDS 60 9890, ref SDS 59 0584.
140904 -
140905 - Craig advised that Kaiser Park Shadelands did not submit xrays taken
140906 - on 990813, ref SDS 57 1457, and did not submit medical history for him
140907 - to prepare for meeting today.
140909 - ..
140910 - This conflicts with the record on...
140911 -
140912 - 1. On 990625 Kaiser's Team Care policy calls for doctors to
140913 - review medical history. ref SDS 41 6970
140915 - ..
140916 - 2. On 990907, ref SDS 61 1080, requesting Patient Assistance to
140917 - ensure that xrays and medical history were submitted to Craig
140918 - for the meeting today. ref DIP 9 0001
140919 -
140920 - [On 990913 received letter from Mark Mangrai that he was sick
140921 - last week and as a result was unable to take action on the
140922 - request sent on 990907. ref SDS 63 8058]
140924 - ..
140925 - [On 990912 article on front page of Sunday papers cites high
140926 - cost of medical mistakes. ref SDS 62 0001]
140928 - ..
140929 - [On 991006 Team Care policy to provide medical history and
140930 - xrays to team members was not followed because a doctor does
140931 - like web mail. ref SDS 71 0002]
140933 - ..
140934 - [On 991008 requested meeting with medical management to review
140935 - procedures. ref SDS 72 9055]
140937 - ..
140938 - [On 000121 Kaiser emphasizes careful handling of patient
140939 - records, and plans to roll out electronic system in late 2001
140940 - to improve present system. ref SDS 77 7654]
140942 - ..
140943 - [On 000211 Dale Ames was misdiagnosed, and wrong xrays used.
140944 - ref SDS 80 3600]
140946 - ..
140947 - 3. 990829 submitted ref DIP 8 4270 to remind Kaiser's staff about
140948 - submitting xrays and medical history to Craig. ref SDS 60 7387
140950 - ..
140951 - 4. 990813 submitted ref DIP 7 5810 requesting medical history be
140952 - submitted to support meeting with orthopedic doctor.
140953 - ref SDS 57 1457
140955 - ..
140956 - As a result, a second set of xrays were taken.
140958 - ..
140959 - Craig said this will only take 15 minutes, and then we can proceed
140960 - with the planned meeting; however, it took 45 minutes due to problem
140961 - reported below. ref SDS 0 6305
140962 -
140963 - Consideration is needed to review Kaiser procedures that encumber
140964 - the patient for half of a work day, considering travel and
140965 - traffic, to take xrays weeks in advance of a meeting, which can be
140966 - accomplished on-site within 20 minutes on the day of the meeting.
140967 -
140969 - ..
140970 - Email Hampers Management, Need Communication Metrics for Web Mail
140971 - Doctor Does Not Have Time to Review Medical History on the Web
140972 -
140973 - I offered to submit the medical history via web mail for Craig to
140974 - review, and we can reschedule the meeting so he has time to be
140975 - prepared, per Kaiser policy reported on 990625. ref SDS 41 6970
140977 - ..
140978 - Craig does not want to do this, similar to Syed on 990802, ref SDS 54
140979 - 9108, and Sylvia on 990625. ref SDS 41 1846
140981 - ..
140982 - Craig advised he does not need to review medical history, because
140983 - xrays, examination and discussion with the patient are sufficient to
140984 - treat the patient. Reliance on immediate impressions from sight and
140985 - sound is a common desire in medical practice, ref SDS 24 0866, and
140986 - among executives in business, reported on 990625. ref SDS 42 4914
140988 - ..
140989 - On 940728 Doctor Kory Zipperstein, who reviewed an actual SDS record,
140990 - reported that medical history saves time and money. ref SDS 15 0001
140992 - ..
140993 - Craig said he does not have time to examine medical history, as
140994 - reported previously by Doctor Sylvia Connolly on 990625. ref SDS 41
140995 - 2652 He noted that medical charts have history, but these are not
140996 - always available, as occurred today. He wants me to send a letter
140997 - that pulls together all of the relevant history he needs to review.
140998 -
140999 - [On 990912 article on front page of Sunday papers cites high cost
141000 - of medical mistakes. ref SDS 62 0001]
141002 - ..
141003 - [On 000121 Jeanne Bradley reported doctors are frustrated when
141004 - medical history is not submitted in time for meeting with a
141005 - patient. ref SDS 77 0783]
141007 - ..
141008 - I explained that critical history going back 10 - 20 years takes a lot
141009 - of time and effort to assemble, but that web mail links to relevant
141010 - portions of medical history. This expedites his time and my time.
141011 -
141012 - [On 991011 Craig reports having reviewed medical history,
141013 - and that it is not relevant to diagnosis. ref SDS 73 2303]
141015 - ..
141016 - Craig said Kaiser's policies prevent him from giving patients his
141017 - email address.
141019 - ..
141020 - Craig also worried that he would have to spend a lot of time searching
141021 - for relevant history if he gets web mail. He wants to save time.
141023 - ..
141024 - I explained, again, that web mail saves time by providing direct links
141025 - to relevant portions of medical history, and, also, provides the full
141026 - record, so that he can judge what needs further review, rather than
141027 - place the burden on the patient to guess about what is important for
141028 - effective medical practice.
141030 - ..
141031 - Craig clarified his concern about not using email for communicating
141032 - medical history.
141034 - ..
141035 - He said he is overwhelmed by email, which is pretty common everywhere,
141036 - as reported on 980807. ref SDS 30 2426
141038 - ..
141039 - If he gets an email today or tomorrow, then by the time we meet in a
141040 - few weeks, that email will be buried, lost or deleted and he won't be
141041 - able to remember what is relevant to our meeting, and he wont' be able
141042 - to find the email to review it during the meeting. He said that if he
141043 - can rely on talking to the patient, or getting a printed letter from
141044 - the patient, then his responsibility is limited to what the patient
141045 - can remember to say at the time. He can review the record during the
141046 - meeting with the patient, rather than prepare in advance of the
141047 - meeting.
141049 - ..
141050 - These issues were reviewed on 990625 concerning Kaiser's Healthwise
141051 - Handbook Guidelines for doctor patient partnership. ref SDS 41 9577
141053 - ..
141054 - Thanked Craig for considering this initiative, and apologized for
141055 - requesting consideration of methods beyond reach for conventional
141056 - medical practice.
141058 - ..
141059 - I explained that Welch web mail provides instant precision access to
141060 - relevant information, essential for comprehensive care. This
141061 - significantly improves conventional email, and improves by orders of
141062 - magnitude traditional medical practice using printed documents, as
141063 - seen, for example, from the record on 990802. ref SDS 54 0406
141065 - ..
141066 - Craig does not have experience with precision access in SDS records in
141067 - order to judge correctness of my representations today, so I stood
141068 - down on the issue.
141070 - ..
141071 - I will review with Patient Assistance how to help Kaiser accomplish
141072 - effective doctor/patient communcation without burdening the doctor's
141073 - time, as was done previusly on 990907. ref SDS 61 1080
141074 -
141075 - [On 990913 requested help from Patient Assistance. ref SDS 63 1269]
141076 -
141077 - [On 990924 Patient Assistance noted objections; reviewed advantages
141078 - of web mail again. ref SDS 66 9964]
141080 - ..
141081 - [On 990925 requested Pataient Assistance support again. ref SDS 68
141082 - 3966]
141084 - ..
141085 - [On 990928 report that Craig is using web mail. ref SDS 69 0001]
141086 -
141087 -
141088 -
141089 -
1411 -
SUBJECTS
Xray Left Right Knees Patient Identification Cards Switched Medical
2103 -
210401 - ..
210402 - Xray Knees Radiology Department
210403 - Patient Account Card Switched Medical Mistakes Radiology Department
210404 - Medical Mistakes Radiology Department Patient Account Card Switched
210405 - Radiology Department Patient Account Card Switched Medical Mistakes
210406 -
210407 - The medical assistant prepared a work order for new xrays.
210408 -
210409 - I took it to the xray department, and placed the work order in a
210410 - processing cabinet.
210412 - ..
210413 - The xray technician retrieved the work order about 15 mintues later,
210414 - and returned to his office to prepare for taking my xrays. He
210415 - returned in five minutes, and asked for someone else to come into the
210416 - xray room.
210418 - ..
210419 - I explained my understanding that I was next in line for xrays.
210421 - ..
210422 - The technician asked if I am so and so, and I gave my name. Since I
210423 - was only person in the waiting area, the technician exclaimed another
210424 - mistake has occurred, asked me to wait a minute. He went back to his
210425 - office and handed me the xray work order and asked if I was the person
210426 - on the work order.
210428 - ..
210429 - Since I was not, he concluded the work order was prepared incorrectly.
210431 - ..
210432 - He went to the medical administration area. A few minutes later, he
210433 - returned with the Medical Technician who prepared the work order. The
210434 - Medical Technician asked to see my Kaiser Card. I opened my wallet
210435 - and pulled out the card, and showed it to the technician. She asked
210436 - if I am so and so, and I gave my name.
210438 - ..
210439 - The Medical Technician said she filled out the xray work order
210440 - incorrectly, and that she gave me another patient's Kaiser Card. I
210441 - checked and saw I had my Kaiser card still in my wallet, even though
210442 - I had just handed a card to the Medical Technician.
210444 - ..
210445 - What seems to have happened is that there was another patient's Kaiser
210446 - card on the Medical Technician's desk for processing something else,
210447 - at the time the work order for my xrays was prepared. She used the
210448 - other patient's Kaiser account card to prepare the xray work order,
210449 - instead of asking for my Kaiser card, and then and gave the other
210450 - patient's Kaiser card to me, which I put in my wallet, assuming it was
210451 - mine, because she handed it to me.
210453 - ..
210454 - It was just a series of small mistake that the mind makes when rushed,
210455 - due to limited span of attention.
210456 -
210457 - [On 991001 space ship crashes on Mars due to small mistake.
210458 - ref SDS 70 0001]
210459 -
210460 - [On 050907 Kaiser attendant in Business Office submitted medical
210461 - records for 2nd opinion on the wrong patient. ref SDS 83 FB41
210463 - ..
210464 - The NWO... paper explains the compounding effect of small mistakes
210465 - over time. ref OF 4 JV3G In this case, we caught the problem early,
210466 - so harm was contained.
210468 - ..
210469 - Presumably, if I was on a bed, medicated and unable to speak, the same
210470 - mistakes could have been compounded by switching paperwork on an elbow
210471 - surgery for a heart transplant.
210472 -
210473 - [On 990912 article in Sunday Times about high cost of medical
210474 - mistakes. ref SDS 62 0001]
210476 - ..
210477 - [On 991008 requested meeting with medical management to review
210478 - procedures. ref SDS 72 6256]
210479 -
210480 -
210481 -
210482 -
2105 -
SUBJECTS
Left Knee Xray Moderate Degenerative Arthritis Osteoarthritis Can On
3003 -
300401 - ..
300402 - Left Knee Moderate Degenerative Arthritis Right Knee Less Severe
300403 - Xray Findings Moderate Narrowing Calcification Osteophytes Left Knee
300404 - Osteoarthritis Calcification Bone Spurs Fills Gap Removed Cartilage Left Knee
300405 - Degenerative Arthritis Can Only Get Worse Left and Right Knee Joints
300406 -
300407 - Follow up ref SDS 59 0879, ref SDS 57 1716.
300408 -
300409 - Explained background of injuries to both knees.
300411 - ..
300412 - While we talked, Craig examined the left and right knees, and
300413 - discussed potential treatments in a general way.
300415 - ..
300416 - Left knee suffered severe trauma in about July 1974 (or possibly the
300417 - year before in 1973) from industrial accident, falling 40' into a
300418 - pumping station under construction in West Sacramento. Fortunate to
300419 - land vertically between two large pumps rising about 4' with a space
300420 - of about 2' between them. Surgery was performed a week or so later
300421 - that removed cartilage from the inside of the left knee.
300423 - ..
300424 - From 1974 - 1986, there was no appreciable pain in either knee from
300425 - running 5 - 12 miles 4 - 7 days a week.
300427 - ..
300428 - In about 1986 began playing tennis 1 - 2 hours 4 - 7 times a week.
300430 - ..
300431 - On 881010, left knee suffered severe pain from playing tennis.
300432 - Examination and xray by Doctor Glick indicated furthering narrowing of
300433 - joint space. ref SDS 1 6295 The next day remedial arthroscopic
300434 - surgery was performed, reported on 881011 0830. ref SDS 2 6800 Two
300435 - separate tears in different cartilage members were repaired; the
300436 - doctor also found ligiment was likely removed during the first surgery
300437 - in 1973 or 74. ref SDS 3 007R In the past few years pain has
300438 - increased in the left knee an hour or so after playing tennis
300440 - ..
300441 - Right knee has suffered minor injuries - in 1971 banged right knee on
300442 - rocks in industrial accident. It was enough to cause bleeding, but
300443 - did not notice impaired use of knee. Earlier in 1968 during trials
300444 - for Olympic wrestling team, knee was twisted severely. Required
300445 - drainage and hospitialized for a week or so in traction at Fort Lewis
300446 - in Washington. Subsequently did not notice impaired knee function.
300447 - In past 6 months, right knee has gradually begun to hurt similar to
300448 - the left knee an hour or so after playing tennis.
300450 - ..
300451 - After presenting patient history of knee issues, the xrays performed
300452 - earlier today, per above, ref SDS 0 O595, and along with radiology
300453 - report, were ready for review.
300455 - ..
300456 - Craig presented the radiology report on the xray just performed, per
300457 - above, ref SDS 0 6305, which says...
300458 -
300459 - Patient Provider Catatory View FR DATE TO DATE
300460 - 05519189 Radiology Report
300461 -
300462 - Patient 1 of 1 Personal Physician: SYED E NAQVI MD SHA
300463 - Welch, Rod 70/M Radiology Report Exam 1 of 1
300464 - Page 1 of 2
300465 -
300467 - ..
300468 - KNEES
300469 - Ordered by: CRAIG M BOULRIS MD on 09/10/1999 1514 at WCR OUTPATIENT
300470 - Performed in: WCR - Read by DALE M JUNG MD
300471 -
300472 - -- HISTORY --
300473 - None provided.
300475 - ..
300476 - -- FINDINGS -- There is moderate narrowing of the
300477 - knee joint space on the left both medial and laterially.
300478 - Spurring of the articular surfaces is seen. Patellofemoral
300479 - joint space also shows narrowing. The right knee shows
300480 - only slight narrowing of the medial tibial femoral joint
300481 - space with slight spurring. There are no fractures.
300482 -
300483 - -- IMPRESSION --
300484 - Degeneration change more severe on the left than on the
300485 - right.
300487 - ..
300488 - RAD.REP
300490 - ..
300491 - Craig showed the xray film. He pointed out in the xray arthritic
300492 - condition of the left knee, as described in the report Findings, per
300493 - above. ref SDS 0 SY78 The xray film shows the gap between the top
300494 - femeral and lower tibia bones on the left side of the left knee joint
300495 - appears normal, indicating normal cartelage. However, the lower leg
300496 - (tibia) bone appears to have grown upwards filling the gap where
300497 - cartelage was removed on the right side of the left knee joint during
300498 - surgery in 1974. Thus, the tibia bone now seems to be nearly touching
300499 - the upper femeral bone on the inside of the left knee joint. Craig
300500 - diagnosed severe pain in the left knee arises from this condition of
300501 - "moderate" narrowing, which he further advised constitutes
300502 - "degenerative arthritis" caused by calcification and osteophytes (also
300503 - called "bone spurs" in the xray findings, per above, ref SDS 0 SY78).
300504 - Another term he used was "osteoarthritis."
300505 -
300506 - [On 990925 1058 received Craig's letter submitting his
300507 - opinion that radiographs show some osteoarthritis in left
300508 - knee with diminution of the medial joint space due to
300509 - calcification in the meniscal area, and, early osteophytes
300510 - formed on the femoral condyles. ref SDS 67 3088
300512 - ..
300513 - He said this condition of degenerative arthritis (also called
300514 - "osteoarthritis") cannot improve, and will get worse over time.
300515 - Without treatment and by stopping high stress activity, the left knee
300516 - will likely require knee replacement in 10 years. Continuing current
300517 - high stress activity running, particularly changing directions quickly
300518 - that occurs in tennis, football, basketball, etc., then without
300519 - treatment the left knee could require knee replacement in as little as
300520 - 5 years.
300522 - ..
300523 - I did not mention this to Craig during the meeting, today, but I was
300524 - struck that xray study today of the left knee looked very much the
300525 - same condition shown by the prior xray study 10 years ago on 881010,
300526 - where the outer side has a nearly normal gap between the upper and
300527 - lower leg bones, and the upper bone on the inner side is angled down
300528 - to fill the space where cartelage was partially removed during the
300529 - knee operation in 1974. In both studies, the upper and lower leg
300530 - bones seem nearly touching on the inside, symptomatic of degenerative
300531 - arthritis. ref SDS 1 6295
300533 - ..
300534 - [On 000124 Doctor Vincent Yamomoto in Orthopedics
300535 - Department at Kaiser in Walnut Creek diagnosed left knee
300536 - degenerative arthritis will continue to worsen, and require
300537 - knee replacement in 5 years. ref SDS 78 HU5O
300539 - ..
300540 - [On 151216 1130 new xray of left leg seems to show even gap
300541 - between the upper and lower leg bones, indicating the
300542 - cartelage has repaired from regimen hiking 11 miles per day
300543 - (10,000 miles past 4 years), with Glucosamine Chondroitine.
300544 - ref SDS 84 GO5K
300546 - ..
300547 - [On 151229 1239 met with Erica, Director of Imaging
300548 - Services for Diablo service Area, ref SDS 85 LK45; she
300549 - submitted copy of xray study on the left knee, performed on
300550 - 990910, at the Kaiser Radiology Department in Walnut Creek;
300551 - the report said simply "There is moderate narrowing of the
300552 - knee joint space on the left both medial and laterially.
300553 - Spurring of the articular surfaces is seen. Patellofemoral
300554 - joint space also shows narrowing." ref SDS 85 03A4
300556 - ..
300557 - I asked what accounts for the significant pain the right knee, that
300558 - seems similar to pain in the left knee, as reported in the record on
300559 - 990625, ref SDS 41 4420, if the right knee seems to be in better shape
300560 - than the left knee in the xrays?
300562 - ..
300563 - The doctor explained the xray shows the right knee has only mild
300564 - degenerative arthritis, which much less severe than significant
300565 - narrowing occurring in the left knee, described as "moderate" in the
300566 - xray report. ref SDS 0 SY78
300568 - ..
300569 - Craig speculated there may be pockets of cartilage that are missing in
300570 - the right knee that don't show up on the xray. These pockects
300571 - evidently cause pain during exercise. He drew a plan view diagram of
300572 - the cartilage surface to illustrate how isolated cartilage could be
300573 - missing from interior areas, but are not shown in a standard xray
300574 - because the angle of the camera is limited by the configuration of the
300575 - knee. (See also below. ref SDS 0 7872)
300576 -
300577 - [On 991011 Craig advises that the cause of comparable pain in the
300578 - right knee is not known. ref SDS 73 3088]
300580 - ..
300581 - [On 991018 article says MRI may be able to show cause of pain,
300582 - ref SDS 74 4620, submitted letter requesting comment. ref SDS 74
300583 - 0001]
300585 - ..
300586 - [On 000124 Vincint suggests causes of pain in right knee and says
300587 - MRI will not show pockets of cartilage missing. ref SDS 78 2860]
300589 - ..
300590 - We reviewed symptoms set out in the record on 990625, ref SDS 41 4420,
300591 - and, also, medical history, in a general way based on the same record.
300592 - ref SDS 41 5152
300593 -
300594 - [On 990915 Jeanne submitted medical history to Craig. ref SDS 64
300595 - 2255]
300597 - ..
300598 - The doctor examined the knees by bending them in various directions,
300599 - similar to the method used by Sylvia on 990625, ref SDS 41 0882, and
300600 - he asked if there is pain when sitting for extended periods, per
300601 - meeting with Christy on 990816. ref SDS 59 8769
300603 - ..
300604 - Craig advised that his father was an active athlete, and had a knee
300605 - replacement. Not sure if he said the work had to be re-done, or will
300606 - require re-work soon, because the cement fails over time. The main
300607 - point is that knee replacement does not restore a condition that
300608 - supports athletic stress on the knee. His dad has changed to activity
300609 - that is less stressful to knees, like swimming and biking.
300611 - ..
300612 - I mentioned having started biking.
300614 - ..
300615 - Craig indicated mountain biking provides a comparable workout to
300616 - running. He does mountain biking, and looks to be in pretty good
300617 - shape.
300618 -
300619 - [On 990927 reported good results from biking. ref SDS 68 0001]
300620 -
300621 -
300622 -
300623 -
300624 -
3007 -
SUBJECTS
Left Knee Right Knee Pain Relief Cortisone Injection Not Recommended
3903 -
390401 - ..
390402 - Cortisone Not Recommended Pain Relief Does Not Prevent Continued Failure of Knee
390403 - Pain Relief Does Not Prevent Continued Failure of Knee Cortisone Not Recommended
390404 -
390405 - Craig advised that cortisone injections can relieve pain, which was
390406 - cited in the letter from Sylvia received on 990706. ref SDS 45 0045
390407 -
390408 - I asked if this fixes the underlying problem that causes the pain?
390410 - ..
390411 - Craig advised cortisone does not solve the problem I have,
390412 - particularly in the left knee of degenerative arthritis, which worsens
390413 - with use.
390414 -
390415 -
390416 -
3905 -
SUBJECTS
Left Knee Replacement 10 Years Prognosis Without High Stress Activit
5203 -
520401 - ..
520402 - Knee Replacement Needed in 10 Years Without High Stress Activity
520403 -
520404 - Craig seemed to say again emphasizing that without treatment, then
520405 - even giving up high stress activity like tennis, that in 10 years I
520406 - will likely need a knee replacement to recover from advancing
520407 - osteoarthritis, per above. ref SDS 0 UW4N
520409 - ..
520410 - Since knee replacement does not support an active life, this is not a
520411 - good solution at this time.
520412 -
520413 - [On 990925 Craig's written report for the meeting today on
520414 - 990910, confirms diagnosis that evaluation indicates knee
520415 - replacement may be needed in 10 years. ref SDS 67 2951]
520417 - ..
520418 - [On 000124 0830 Doctor Vincent Yomamoto diagnosed knee
520419 - replacement may be needed in 5 years. ref SDS 79 HU5O
520420 -
520421 -
520422 -
5205 -
SUBJECTS
Cartilage Replacement Experimental Knee Treatments Osteoarthritis De
6903 -
690401 - ..
690402 - Cartilage Replacement Still Experimental; No Effective Cure
690403 - Injection Therapies Treat Isolated Pockets Not General Arthritis
690404 -
690405 - Craig explained that cartilage and its integration with bone and other
690406 - components is highly complex, and therefore impossible to replicate
690407 - with present technology.
690409 - ..
690410 - Craig drew a series of sketches to explain his impression from
690411 - extensive research and experience, that some injection therapies help
690412 - by providing lubrication, but none have been effective in restoring
690413 - pervasive loss of cartilage that has been removed by surgery, or worn
690414 - away through degenerative arthritis (also "osteoarthritis"), as shown
690415 - in the xray of left knee, per above. ref SDS 0 SY78
690417 - ..
690418 - Since we did not have the list of new therapies, ref OF 2 0001,
690419 - reported on 990625, ref SDS 41 5400, we could not address them
690420 - individually; except, Craig specifically does not recommend Synvisc,
690421 - which was cited in my letter to Syed, ref DIP 6 5841, on 990731.
690422 - ref SDS 53 0001
690423 -
690424 - [On 990924 Doctor Boulris recommends Synvisc. ref SDS 67 3955
690425 - and ref SDS 67 0770]
690427 - ..
690428 - [On 991011 Craig says success for Synvisc treatment has not been
690429 - as high as he would like to see. ref SDS 73 3942]
690431 - ..
690432 - [On 000124 Vincint was familiar with article on 8 new therapies
690433 - from work with another patient. ref SDS 78 2772]
690435 - ..
690436 - Craig seems to have a good knowledge of effective treatments, as well
690437 - as current fads being promoted in journals and the Internet. He seems
690438 - comfortable using the Internet.
690439 -
690440 - [On 990915 all of Kaiser's providers do not have access to the
690441 - Internet on their office computers. ref SDS 64 4524]
690443 - ..
690444 - Since the medical history was not submitted, ref SDS 41 5152, Craig
690445 - was unable to review all of the treatments submitted in the record on
690446 - 990625, when Sylvia made the initial examination. ref SDS 41 5400
690447 - This conflicts with the objective cited by Sylvia in the call on
690448 - 990701. ref SDS 44 0855
690449 -
690451 - ..
690452 - Hyaluronic Acid Treatment with Synvisc
690453 -
690454 - Craig did mention, however, during the meeting today consideration of
690455 - "hyaluronic acid" treatments with Synvisc. This happens to be cited
690456 - in the list of 8 new therapies. ref OF 2 7921 He seemed to indicate
690457 - these are not effective for my case. Hopefully, he can clarify this
690458 - in his report.
690460 - ..
690461 - [On 990925 the report makes general reference to "injectible"
690462 - therapies, but does not review the 8 new therapies, except for
690463 - Synvisc. ref SDS 67 0770]
690465 - ..
690466 - [On 991011 Craig confirmed recommendation to consider using
690467 - Synvisc, which is Hylauronic Acid injection treatment.
690468 - ref SDS 73 3942]
690470 - ..
690471 - [On 000124 Doctor Vincint Yamamoto advised the article on 8 new
690472 - therapies was helpful, based on prior work with another patient.
690473 - ref SDS 78 2065]
690474 -
690475 -
6905 -
SUBJECTS
Examination Knees Cartilage Loss Prescribe Strengthen Muscles Around
9203 -
920401 - ..
920402 - Muscle Strength, Some Pill Therapies are Helpful to Knee Joints
920403 -
920404 - Craig confirmed Christy's recommendation on 990819 that exercise can
920405 - be a significant factor in relieving stress on the knee joint that
920406 - causes wear during exercise. ref SDS 59 5612
920407 -
920408 - [On 991011 received letter from Craig confirming advantages of
920409 - exercise to build strength, reduce weight. ref SDS 73 9588]
920411 - ..
920412 - [On 000124 Doctor Yamamoto suggested special shoes to reduce
920413 - stress on knees during exercise. ref SDS 78 4160]
920415 - ..
920416 - He explained advantages of taking certain medications, like ibuprofen
920417 - (Motrin). Craig seemed to advise that medications should be taken
920418 - before exercise, rather than afterwards, because medication retards
920419 - swelling from inflamation.
920421 - ..
920422 - I asked why preventing swelling is useful, despite not treating the
920423 - cause of swelling.
920425 - ..
920426 - Craig explained it, but I did not follow the explanation. Hopefully
920427 - this will be covered in his report. ref SDS 0 3555
920428 -
920429 - [On 990924 the report does not cover this point. ref SDS 67 4524]
920431 - ..
920432 - Craig said Glucosamine Chondroitin pills has been found effective for
920433 - knee joint support, either as a lubricant or other form of aid, rather
920434 - than a mere pain and swelling treatment. He said it has been
920435 - succesful on dogs and horses in Europe. Evidently it has been used on
920436 - humans with success.
920438 - ..
920439 - Craig says it can it be purchased from Costco at a cost of $30 for a
920440 - month supply.
920441 -
920442 - [On 990925 Glucosamine is the medication. ref SDS 67 3120]
920443 -
920444 - [On 991011 purchased Glucosamine Chondroitin. ref SDS 73 2478]
920446 - ..
920447 - [On 991026 Don Harms recommends Glucosamine and Chondroitin.
920448 - ref SDS 75 3392]
920450 - ..
920451 - [On 991125 Steve considering this treatment. ref SDS 76 7654]
920453 - ..
920454 - [On 000124 Doctor Vincent Yamamoto 2nd opinion at Kaiser
920455 - uses Glucosamine and Chrondroitin and reports success in
920456 - treating knee pain, but no restoration of cartilage.
920457 - ref SDS 79 1680]
920459 - ..
920460 - [On 030807 case study shows personal history using liquid
920461 - Glucosamine Chondroiten and clincial research. ref SDS 81
920462 - FN9N
920464 - ..
920465 - [On 040529 0248 report that Glucosamine Chondroitin in
920466 - liquid form relieved knee pain from hiking 3 - 10 miles per
920467 - day. ref SDS 82 MN9P
920469 - ..
920470 - We should try to get some liturature on this.
920472 - ..
920473 - This clarifies Sylvia's comments on 990701, saying Kaiser does not
920474 - recommend pill therapies for knees. ref SDS 44 2015]
920475 -
920476 - [On 990915 Jeanne Bradley printed this record for Doctor Connolly.
920477 - ref SDS 64 0001]
920479 - ..
920480 - I asked Craig to submit a report explaining the various therapy
920481 - options he discussed today, setting out which seem most appropriate
920482 - and promising to achieve the objective of remaining active.
920484 - ..
920485 - Craig will include the name of the medication he recommends, in his
920486 - report.
920487 -
920488 - [On 990916 Jeanne submitted this record to Craig for reference in
920489 - preparing his report. ref SDS 65 0001]
920490 -
920491 - [On 990925 received Craig's report. ref SDS 67 0001]
920492 -
920493 -
920494 -
920495 -
9205 -
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Default Null Subject Account for Blank Record
9303 -
930401 - ..
930402 - Medical Chart Progress Notes Orthopedic Surgery Consultation
930403 -
930404 -
930405 - [On 990925 received Craig's report, developed issues. ref SDS 67
930406 - 0001
930407 -
930408 - 1. KAISER PERMANENTE - WALNUT CREEK
930409 - ORTHOPEDIC SURGERY CONSULTATION
930411 - ..
930412 - 2. Patient
930419 - ..
930420 - 4. Date............................ September 10, 1999
930422 - ..
930423 - 5. Consultant
930424 - Craig M. Boulris, M.D.
930426 - ..
930427 - 6. HISTORY OF PRESENT ILLNESS: The patient is a 54-year-old male
930428 - with bilateral knee pain intermittently over the last several
930429 - years. He has had a previous left knee surgery for medial
930430 - meniscus tear 20 years ago .
930432 - ..
930433 - Patient history of injuries and prior surgeries on left knee was
930434 - presented during meeting reported above. ref SDS 0 L36I
930436 - ..
930437 - Kaiser examination report continues...
930438 -
930439 - He complains primarily of pain after 20 minutes or so of
930440 - playing tennis. He is not particularly tender here today but
930441 - does have pain with activities. He has tried anti-inflammatory
930442 - pills, physical therapy, and would like to discuss his knee
930443 - condition further.
930445 - ..
930446 - 7. PHYSICAL EXAMINATION: On physical exam, he has a full range of
930447 - motion. The left knee has a scar in the sagittal plane
930448 - consistent with medial meniscectomy. His joint lines
930449 - ""medially and laterally are nontender bilaterally today.
930450 - McMurray t~sting is negative. He has no pain with maximal
930451 - flexion of the knee. Lachman and ligamentous testing is
930452 - normal. The patella itself is nontender and only has mild
930453 - clicking through a full range of motion.
930455 - ..
930456 - 8. His radiographs shows mild to moderate arthritis of the left
930457 - knee with diminution of the medial joint space in particular
930458 - with some calcification in the meniscal area. There are some
930459 - early osteophytes which are formed on the femoral condyles.
930460 - The right knee is in much better condition with just some
930461 - minimal irregularity of the medial femoral condyle. No
930462 - significant diminution of joint space on these radiographs and
930463 - no osteophyte formation.
930465 - ..
930466 - Sounds like calcification and osteophytes on femoral condyles (bone
930467 - spurs) may contribute to joint closure causing pain.
930469 - ..
930470 - Kaiser examination report continues...
930471 -
930472 - 9. IMPRESSION: Osteoarthritis, moderate in left knee and mild in
930473 - right knee.
930475 - ..
930476 - 10. We had a lengthy discussion about management options which
930477 - initially would include those that he has already tried, namely
930478 - anti-inflammatory pills, Tylenol, physical therapy, activity
930479 - modification, perhaps wearing a Neoprene brace to keep his knee
930480 - a little warmer while playing tennis, and premedicating himself
930481 - with anti-inflammatories before playing tennis. If possible,
930482 - it would be beneficial for him to play on a clay court or
930483 - doubles as opposed to singles tennis on a hard court. We
930484 - discussed the overall negative effect of repetitive high load
930485 - type sports on articular cartilage. He would like to try to
930486 - get another ten years out of his left knee or more before
930487 - needing intervention. I told him at some point down the road
930488 - he is likely to need a knee replacement, at least on the left
930489 - side.
930491 - ..
930492 - 11. In the meantime, other than the measures already discussed, we
930493 - discussed possible use of injectables which include cortisone,
930494 - hydriodic acid, Synvisc. The pros and cons of these were all
930495 - discussed with the patient.
930497 - ..
930498 - 12. He can have three to five cortisone shots per joint annually .
930500 - ..
930501 - 13. Hydriodic acid is somewhat outdated now and has been replaced
930502 - by Synvisc which I think, should the cortisone fail, we could
930503 - try a dose of three injections in series.
930505 - ..
930506 - 14. We also discussed the use of Glucosamine. There has been some
930507 - early evidence to suggest that this may retard the rate of wear
930508 - of cartilage. It has been combined with Chondroitin sulfate
930509 - and the efficacy of Chondroitin sulfate is somewhat more
930510 - questionable. We also discussed the possibility of a
930511 - debridement of the knee arthroscopically to try to temporize
930512 - the need for a total knee replacement. The patient is going to
930513 - treat himself with. the most conservative measures first and
930514 - return if he desires an injection of cortisone.
930516 - ..
930517 - Aligns with discussion of trying Glucosamine Chondroitin, during the
930518 - meeting, per above. ref SDS 0 5628
930519 -
930520 - [On 990927 requested more specific prescription for using
930521 - Glucosamine and Chrondriton. ref SDS 68 0001]
930522 -
930523 - [On 991011 research on the web indicates that Chontroitin
930524 - with Glucosamine repairs cartilage. ref SDS 73 5933]
930526 - ..
930527 - [On 991011 purchased Glucosamine Chondroitin pills at
930528 - Costco. ref SDS 73 2478 Research indicates this might be
930529 - effective line of care. ref SDS 73 0546
930531 - ..
930532 - [On 991026 Don Harms recommends Glucosamine and Chondroitin.
930533 - ref SDS 75 3392]
930535 - ..
930536 - [On 991125 Steve considering this treatment. ref SDS 76 7654]
930538 - ..
930539 - [On 000124 Doctor Vincent Yamamoto 2nd opinion at Kaiser
930540 - uses Glucosamine and Chrondroitin and reports success in
930541 - treating knee pain, but no restoration of cartilage.
930542 - ref SDS 79 1680]
930544 - ..
930545 - [On 030807 case study shows personal history using liquid
930546 - Glucosamine Chondroiten and clincial research. ref SDS 81
930547 - FN9N
930549 - ..
930550 - [On 040529 0248 report that Glucosamine Chondroitin in
930551 - liquid form relieved knee pain from hiking 3 - 10 miles per
930552 - day. ref SDS 82 MN9P
930554 - ..
930555 - 15. Craig M. Boulris, MD
930557 - ..
930558 - 16. CMB:cb
930559 - D: 9-13-99
930560 - T: 9-21-99
930567 - ..
930568 - 18. THIS T.P.M.G. REPORT HAS
930569 - NOT BEEN REVIEWED BY THE
930570 - DICTATING PHYSICIAN
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