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DIARY: March 1, 1999 01:27 PM Monday; Rod Welch

Received letter from Morris on grant proposal by Roy Roebuck.

1...Summary/Objective
2...Morris' Preliminary Comments on Roy's Credentials and GEM
3...Morris does not comment on Roy's explanation of SDS...
4...Morris does not comment on programming ideas to improve SDS...
5...Morris does not comment on purpose of research...
6...Morris Feels Com Metrics Reflects Rod's Good Memory


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CONTACTS 
0201 - Science Applications                 619 546 6000
020101 - Mr. Roy Roebuck, Ph.D.
0202 - Intel Corporation                    408 765 8080
020201 - Mr. Morris E. Jones; Director of Architecture =408 545 9521
0203 - Chips & Technologies, Inc            408 765 8080
020301 - Mr. Morris E. Jones; Sr. Vice President  =408 545 9521

SUBJECTS
GEM Roy Roebuck
Evaluation
Objectives

0705 -
0705 -    ..
0706 - Summary/Objective
0707 -
070701 - Follow up ref SDS 29 0000, ref SDS 28 0000.
070702 -
070703 - Morris seems to have drawn similar understanding from Roy's GEM web
070704 - site that I did.  It mainly discusses enterprise information flow
070705 - concepts that have not yet been created nor tested.  He mentions a
070706 - number of important considerations for entering into a joint research
070707 - agreement.  Morris does not comment on Roy's explanation of SDS, nor
070708 - on Roy's programming suggestions to make SDS better.  Morris does not
070709 - discuss any benefit of research Communication Metrics, POIMS and SDS.
070710 - ..
070711 - Sent ref DIT 1 with link to this record, asking for further
070712 - comment on pending matters, including new stuff received today from
070713 - Roy. ref SDS 0 0773
070714 -
070715 -
070717 -  ..
0708 -
0709 -
0710 - Progress
0711 -
071101 - Morris' Preliminary Comments on Roy's Credentials and GEM
071102 -
071103 - Received a letter, ref DRT 1, from Morris today responding to my
071104 - letter, ref DIP 5, linked to 990227. ref SDS 29 0000
071105 -
071106 - Morris read Roy's letter, ref DRP 5 0000, which was received 990225.
071107 - ref SDS 28 0000  He comments on these questions.
071108 -
071109 -    1.  Looking at Roy's credentials, ref SDS 28 1080, does it seem he
071110 -        is more of a technician who works in management, or a manager
071111 -        of technical stuff?  What does Morris draw from Roy's work
071112 -        experience? ref SDS 29 7950
071113 -        ..
071114 -        Morris says...
071115 -
071116 -            Roy works in information technology, but Morris cannot tell
071117 -            yet whether he is a technical person, or an entrepreneur/
071118 -            manager type. ref DRT 1 5400
071120 -         ..
071121 -        If you have time to look at his GEM presentation to DOD, does
071122 -        it appear to have a sound conceptual and professional basis?
071123 -        see analysis on 990218, ref SDS 24 8034, which is linked to the
071124 -        GEM presentation.
071125 -        ..
071126 -        Morris says...
071127 -
071128 -            Roy's stuff is in a language very specific to his IT
071129 -            customers.  I didn't get a lot from what he said other than
071130 -            they will create a data base with Objects, and somehow we
071131 -            will learn from these.  The query and access are still a
071132 -            mystery to me.  He focused mostly on the problem, and very
071133 -            little on the solution. ref DRT 1 7825
071134 - ..
071135 - Morris does not comment on Roy's explanation of SDS...
071136 - 
071137 -    2.  Looking at Roy's explanation of SDS, ref DRP 5 3105, is the
071138 -        "need" he cites, ref DRP 5 9360, understandable from daily
071139 -        experience at Intel?  Does Roy use language encountered by
071140 -        executives and IT professionals?  Does this support the
071141 -        explanation of SDS on 911123? ref SDS 2 0477
071142 - ..
071143 - Morris does not comment on programming ideas to improve SDS...
071144 - 
071145 -        Can Roy's programing ideas to use XML make SDS work better?
071146 -        ref DRP 5 1071 cited at ref SDS 29 1620.
071147 -
071148 -        How can it accomplish objectives set on 971105? ref SDS 13 4927
071149 -
071150 -          [On 000124 XML proposed for Dynamic Knowledge Repository
071151 -          (DKR) being developed by Doug Engelbart through a Colloquium
071152 -          at Stanford. ref SDS 35 3551]
071154 -         ..
071155 -        Today, received from Roy programming protocols and/or standards
071156 -        for schedule software. ref SDS 30 8492  It seems to suggest XML
071157 -        for programming SDS. ref SDS 30 9528  There is also discussion
071158 -        of OMG, ref SDS 30 0867 and COBRA. ref SDS 30 1540
071160 -         ..
071161 -        Has Morris worked with this stuff, or seen anything produced by
071162 -        these methods, and based on this experience, what improvements
071163 -        could be accomplished in SDS using XML and/or COBRA?
071165 -         ..
071166 -    3.  What issues require consideration, what questions need to be
071167 -        asked with respect to the grant proposal? ref DRP 5 8279 and in
071168 -        the record on 990225, ref SDS 28 3839
071169 -        ..
071170 -        Morris says ...
071171 -
071172 -            IP ownership. ref DRT 1 9647
071173 -
071174 -            How to continue if the deal goes south, and all your and
071175 -            his assets are mixed up.
071176 -
071177 -            You also need to consider what is protectable such as
071178 -            copyrights and patents, and what is not protectable such as
071179 -            business practices, etc.
071180 -
071181 -                [On 990314 Roy reviewed this. ref SDS 33 4750]
071182 -            ..
071183 -            You should also consider the rights to teach and
071184 -            spread the results. If Roy is a contractor with a strong
071185 -            teaching/training angle, then he can just give IT groups
071186 -            the principles, and they could "implement" a system much
071187 -            like SDS.
071188 -
071189 -                [On 990314 Roy cited possible risk of someone using
071190 -                reverse engineering. ref SDS 33 0572]
071191 - ..
071192 - Morris does not comment on purpose of research...
071193 - 
071194 -        What is the advantage to "research" Communication Metrics,
071195 -        POIMS and SDS? ref SDS 29 4140
071196 -
071197 -        For example, could a paper or book result from the research
071198 -        that would give credibility and visibility so that people feel
071199 -        safe with these ideas?
071201 -         ..
071202 -        Roy mentions a "business plan." ref DRP 5 7095  Is this a
071203 -        viable result of a research grant?  Does Morris know or has he
071204 -        heard of anyone who has done this?
071206 -       ..
071207 -      [On 990427 Morris wants a search engine for SDS online.
071208 -      ref SDS 34 5624]
071209 -
071210 -
0713 -

SUBJECTS
Willfully Blind, Fear and Denial
Rod Remembers Every Little Thing Anger Denies SDS Aids Memory
Morris Denies Having Reviewed the Record He Seems Later to Have Revie
SDS Does Not Improve Management Rod Has a Good Memory

110601 -  ..
1107 -
1108 -
1109 - 2142 called Morris
1110 -
111001 - Morris Feels Com Metrics Reflects Rod's Good Memory
111002 -
111003 - Initially, Morris said he received my letter, ref DIT 1, but could not
111004 - understand what was needed. ref SDS 0 5360
111005 -
111006 - We logged onto the letter together on the Internet.  He had a little
111007 - difficulty because his computer has been changed so he has to key in
111008 - the URL address rather open it from the linked letter I sent.
111010 -  ..
111011 - To make a long story short, after we got all through opening various
111012 - links, which he said were confusing and difficult to use efficiently,
111013 - in fact he seemed to have followed the letter adequately.  At each
111014 - location he commented on having reviewed that information and formed
111015 - an opinion about it in relation to my questions, which is the purpose
111016 - of the entire system, i.e., to facilitate review.
111017 -
111018 -     [On 990308 similar experience with Jason at SFIA. ref SDS 32 6629
111020 -  ..
111021 - Morris seems to want me to call and discuss the record, rather than
111022 - respond.  It appears that the technology accomplished its purpose, but
111023 - for some reason Morris cannot attribute utility or benefit to the
111024 - technology.
111026 -  ..
111027 - He commented something along the lines that this SDS record and those
111028 - that are linked, represent a lot of work which requires persistence
111029 - and a good memory.  He did not say that the record is inaccurate.
111030 -
111031 -      [On 990303 USACE District Counsel attributed accurate record due
111032 -      to good memory; analysis shows SDS helps. ref SDS 31]
111034 -  ..
111035 - He indicated, repeating past observations, that SDS does not
111036 - contribute significantly to Communication Metrics because it is only
111037 - an editor, 980722. ref SDS 16 0834  Morris feels Rod does all the
111038 - work, similar to comments by HQUSACE staff on 971205. ref SDS 14 0560
111039 -
111040 -      [On 990303 received letter from USACE District Counsel approving
111041 -      the record and attributing it to a good memory.
111043 -  ..
111044 - This perspective reflects concern at the meeting on 980405, that busy
111045 - executives do not have time to analyse the record. ref SDS 15 2532
111047 -  ..
111048 - Morris does not want to address point 2 about explaining Communication
111049 - Metrics in terms that IT professionals can understand. ref SDS 0 0772
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