THE WELCH COMPANY
440 Davis Court #1602
San Francisco, CA 94111-2496
415 781 5700
S U M M A R Y
DIARY: March 15, 1998 10:04 PM Sunday;
Rod Welch
First major transfer of SDS records to Communication Metrics Web site.
1...Summary/Objective
2...Assemble SDS Records to Upload on Marketing
3...Need Procedures to Update Server Efficiently
4...Ws_ftp Creates Logs in Each Directory Messes Up Updating Server
5...Managing Files on Server with Unix, Telnet
6...Uploading Using Zip
7...Uploading Seems to Replace Every File Whether or Not New/Changed
8...Midnight to 0500 Best Time for Large Data Transfers
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CONTACTS
0201 - JPS Net 800 711 5353 fax or 800...
020101 - Mr. Brien NLN; Customer Support Rep
020102 - Technical Service =415 376 0121
0202 - JPS Net 800 711 5353 fax or 800...
020201 - Mr. Joe NLN; Customer Support Rep; Technical Service =415 376 0121
SUBJECTS
Web Site, SDS Data Base, Diary 02 Setup
0403 - ..
0404 - Summary/Objective
0405 -
040501 - Follow up ref SDS 10 1380, ref SDS 9 5029.
040502 -
040503 - Completed first phase of getting SDS records in HTML format on the
040504 - Communication Metrics Web site. Seems to take about 3 hours to
040505 - transfer 12 MB.
040506 -
040507 - [On 980316 test failures of Web site accessing SDS. ref SDS 12
040508 - 1437]
040509 -
040510 - [On 980321 successful test of Web site for busiess intelligence.
040511 - ref SDS 15 4345]
040512 -
040513 - JPS does not support zipping files for efficient transfer. ref SDS 0
040514 - 4674. Did not get Telnet instructions. Need a way of efficiently
040515 - updating the records each day to support timely "intelligence." ref
040516 - SDS 0 2425
040517 -
040518 -
040519 -
0406 -
0407 -
0408 - Progress
0409 -
040901 - ..
040902 - Assemble SDS Records to Upload on Marketing
040903 -
040904 - Now that we have completed changes to the record selection and SDS
040905 - HTML conversion tools, ref SDS 11 3435, I began uploading records to
040906 - the Web site.
040907 -
040908 - I am uploading records on Communication Metrics definition so they can
040909 - be used to test, improve and to illustrate how the Internet can be
040910 - used to deliver...
040911 -
040912 - Anytime, Anywhere Intelligence
040913 -
040914 - ...per goal on 971021. ref SDS 1 3636
040915 -
040916 - We are uploading only the 02 Diary records. These transferred records
040917 - omit the Reference field, per ref SDS 11 4969. Links in the Contacts
040918 - have also been removed.
040919 -
040920 - Assemblying records for uploading seems to work pretty well now using
040921 - 06116, per planning on 971206.
040922 -
040923 - The processor can be somewhat selective, keeping in mind it assembles
040924 - an entire record for each subject, and so necessarily includes
040925 - portions of other subjects. This allows, however, people to access
040926 - other records on the same subject, and to review information on
040927 - related subjects, which is a goal of
040928 -
040929 - "business intelligence."
040930 -
040931 -
040932 - I deleted the listing of the initial submissin on Friday.
040933 - ..
040934 - Ran Web site data base assembly op for following subjects:
040935 -
040936 - SDS Development, Marketing
040937 -
040938 - 03 00050 01 02 94 to 98 Customer perceived value
040939 - 03 00050 01 05 10 94 to 98 Sales Resistance/Objections
040940 - 03 00050 01 05 1C 94 to 98 Sales Points, A - D
040941 - 03 00050 01 05 1D 94 to 98 E - L
040942 - 03 00050 01 05 1E 94 to 98 M - Z
040943 - 03 00050 01 08 94 to 98 Application to market
040944 -
040945 - This is 8 MB to transmit, and on the disk it is 11 MB
040946 -
040947 - 730 files in 630 folders
040948 -
040949 - I copied this initial data base to c: sd 08, deleted the stuff on h:
040950 - and then put the next bunch of stuff on h: so I can send it to the
040951 - server in a second group.
040952 -
040953 - As an experiment, to illustrate a consolidated body of stuff, will put
040954 - the records for the Communication Metrics Web site project on the
040955 - site, which includes the JPS procurement and configuration.
040956 -
040957 - 04 00067 Did this
040958 -
040959 - Decided to put the PG&E generic stuff on the site, since I am meeting
040960 - with Bill tomorrow.
040961 -
040962 - 04 00061 Did this
040963 -
040964 - Bill DeHart's personal support account
040965 -
040966 - 04 00066 Did this
040967 -
040968 - Corps of Engineers
040969 -
040970 - 04 00065 Did not do this for now.
040971 -
040972 - Want to see how well the initial effort works. The marketing
040973 - records will include a lot of this CEO stuff anyway.
040974 -
040975 -
040976 -
040977 -
0410 -
SUBJECTS
Updating Server Using Directories on Local
Store SDS Records in Multiple Drives
Avoid Uploading Files That Have Not Changed
0706 -
070601 - ..
070602 - Need Procedures to Update Server Efficiently
070603 -
070604 - We need to think through the process of updating the data base
070605 - once it has been created, so we do not waste a lot of time copy files
070606 - that have not changed.
070607 -
070608 - [On 980317 developed initial methods. ref SDS 13 3479]
070609 -
070610 - Need procedure for zipping files.
070611 -
070612 - [On 980317 got lead on this. ref SDS 14 5108]
070613 -
070614 - Need to avoid updating existing files that have not changed.
070615 -
070616 - Looks like we have to keep a composite inventory of files uploaded in
070617 - order for the update routine in 06116 to run, since it compares files
070618 - using "dir."
070619 -
070620 - We might be able to do the compare in directory and save the files in
070621 - another directory, so that we can upload them without having duplicate
070622 - what has already been transferred. After the upload, then the
070623 - transfer directory has to copied to the permant inventory used as the
070624 - comparison data base for the next update.
070625 -
070626 - This reminds of the story Lucille used to tell about the taking the
070627 - cat, the chicken and the fox across the stream without having any two
070628 - of them along at one time.
070629 -
070630 - [On 980317 developed initial methods. ref SDS 13 3479]
070631 -
070632 -
070633 -
070634 -
0707 -
0708 -
SUBJECTS
Web Site, SDS Data Base, Diary 02 Setup
Upload Records
Test Delivery, Access SDS HTML Files
Ws_ftp logs in each directory
1207 - 0150 [next morning] Begin transmitting
1208 - ..
120801 - Began uploading initially the files on c: sd 10, which were
120802 - created in h: sd 08, and copied to c: sd 10, so I could do the upload
120803 - in groups.
120804 -
120805 - I used ws_ftp. Began the upload after midnight, since JPS said this
120806 - evening that it is the best time to do a large upload. ref SDS 0 1513
120807 -
120808 - W95 Properties reports it has...
120809 -
120810 - 8 MB which is 16 MB used on our disk
120811 - 1,298 files
120812 - 625 folders
120813 -
120814 - ...actually these calculations are incorrect, because the ws_ftp
120815 - program creates a transfer log file in every directory. ref SDS 0
120816 - 3711
120817 -
120818 - I observed the initial up load which took about 40 minutes to upload
120819 - files for 1994 to 1995
120820 -
120821 - I went to bed. If it took 40 minutes for 30%, it likely took 135 for
120822 - all of it, allowing for more records in 1996 and 1997 because that
120823 - period was more heavily concentrated in marketing activity, which is
120824 - the subject being uploaded.
120825 -
120826 - So... 135 minutes for 8 MB = .05 MB per minute
120827 -
120828 -
1209 -
1210 -
1211 - 0510 [next morning] uploaded files on h:
1212 -
121201 - Transferred the second bunch of files on h:
121202 -
121203 - W95 Properties reports it has...
121204 -
121205 - 4 MB which is 11 MB used on our disk
121206 - 1,048 files
121207 - 433 folders
121208 -
121209 - If we transmitted at the same rate of .05 MB per minute, then this
121210 - transfer took about 80 minutes.
121211 -
121212 - So 12 MB required about 215 minutes = 3.6 hours, say 4 hours.
121213 -
121214 - On our disk this is 27 MB in 4 hours.
121215 -
121216 -
121217 -
121218 -
1213 -
1214 -
SUBJECTS
Web Site, SDS Data Base, Diary 02 Setup
Upload Records
Test Delivery, Access SDS HTML Files
Ws_ftp logs in each directory
FTP Creates Log in Local Directories
1608 -
160801 - ..
160802 - Ws_ftp Creates Logs in Each Directory Messes Up Updating Server
160803 -
160804 - We need a way to upload stuff to the Server, then each day assemble
160805 - records that are new or have changed and transfer them to the server.
160806 -
160807 - The Ws_ftp program puts a log in the directory of the local drive for
160808 - every file transferred to the server.
160809 -
160810 - This practice seems like it will cause these log files to be
160811 - transferred to the server when updates are made, because transfers
160812 - are specified at the group directory level.
160813 -
160814 - How can we eliminate the ws_ftp logs from being created, or can they
160815 - be created in a single file for the transfer and put in a designated
160816 - directory?
160817 -
160818 - Maybe the ws_ftp pro program can help.
160819 -
160820 - The ws_ftp.log files are helpful in showing data was transferred,
160821 - but we only need one for each transfer.
160822 -
160823 -
160824 -
160825 -
160826 -
160827 -
1609 -
1610 -
SUBJECTS
Telnet, W95 Utiity
Deleting Files and Subdirectories
Setup
Zip, JPS will not unzip
Uploading, Downloading Files
Acquisition
Managing/Manipulating Data on Server
2410 - Discussion
2411 - ..
241101 - Talked to Josh
241102 -
241103 -
241104 - Managing Files on Server with Unix, Telnet
241105 -
241106 - Follow up ref SDS 10 1690.
241107 -
241108 - Josh said Joe is off today. He is scheduled to be on the job
241109 - tomorrow from 1700 to 0200 the next morning.
241110 -
241111 - Josh could not find a problem number or other identification by which
241112 - Joe may have associated his work on this matter. He asked his
241113 - colleagues about it and no one else is familiar with Joe's efforts or
241114 - progress on this.
241115 -
241116 - Josh said he is not familiar with using Telnet with a table or other
241117 - procedure that enables the customer to manage information on the JPS
241118 - server efficiently.
241119 -
241120 -
241121 - ..
241122 - Uploading Using Zip
241123 -
241124 - Can we upload a lot of stuff using zip?
241125 -
241126 - Josh said we can zip files and upload them, but the owner of JPS,
241127 - Brad, won't let anyone from JPS unzip them. Josh indicated that Brad
241128 - does not want customers to unzip files to their service space either.
241129 - Brad's idea is for the customer and JPS to tie up the phone lines for
241130 - a longer period.
241131 -
241132 -
241133 - ..
241134 - Uploading Seems to Replace Every File Whether or Not New/Changed
241135 -
241136 - If we begin uploading can we tell the thing to only replace a changed
241137 - file?
241138 -
241139 - Josh said the Ws_pft program warns the customer about an uploaded file
241140 - being older. The customer can then indicate whether to procede. Josh
241141 - said there is not a switch to enable the ws_ftp program or any other
241142 - program for uploading information to a server, that enables the
241143 - process to skip older files.
241144 - ..
241145 - I noticed on the ws_ftp Web site that they have a more robust
241146 - program that costs $35 or so. Maybe it can help on some of this
241147 - stuff.
241148 -
241149 - [On 980421 purchased this program. ref SDS 16 0412]
241150 -
241151 -
241152 - ..
241153 - Midnight to 0500 Best Time for Large Data Transfers
241154 -
241155 - I advised we have a fairly large transfer to make, between 10 and 15
241156 - MB, and asked if there are routinely times that are more conducive to
241157 - large transfers like this?
241158 -
241159 - Josh said the best time for the JPS servers is after Midnight until
241160 - about 0500.
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