THE WELCH COMPANY
440 Davis Court #1602
San Francisco, CA 94111-2496
415 781 5700
rod@welchco.com
S U M M A R Y
DIARY: July 24, 2015 09:21 AM Friday;
Rod Welch
Hoka bought 1 pair Stinson Lite and from Running Warehouse bought 4 pair.
1...Summary/Objective
2...Hoka Return Stinson 3 Size 10.5 Narrower than Stinson Lite
3...Hoka Constant Size 9.5 Received Not Equal Stinson Lite
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SUBJECTS
Hoka Stinson Lite Shoes Size 10 Wider Toe Line Prevent Metatarsalgia
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1903 - ..
1904 - Summary/Objective
1905 -
190501 - Follow up ref SDS 70 0000. ref SDS 69 0000.
190502 -
190503 - Returned Hoka Stinson 3 shoes size 10 purchased a few days ago to
190504 - evaluate shoes for replacing existing 4 pair Hoka Stinson Lite shoes
190505 - size 10. ref SDS 0 XN5F Received Hoka Constant shoes size 9.5 to
190506 - replace Stinson 3 shoes size 10 that were too narrow. These shoes are
190507 - wider, but have numerous problems. ref SDS 0 XX8F Called Hoka to
190508 - exchange these shoes. ref SDS 0 G46L Hoka has 1 pair Stinson Lite
190509 - size 10.5 in black, so ordered it at total cost of $174. ref SDS 0
190510 - M566 If experience wearing Hoka Stinson Lite shows size 10.5 is not
190511 - too long, then will consider exchanging Hoka Constant shoes received
190512 - today, for Hoka Stinson 3 size 10.5 in week or so. ref SDS 0 ZE3G
190513 - Received Hoka order #11799978 confirming sale for 1 pair Hoka Stinsin
190514 - Lite black size 10.5. ref SDS 0 FJ5H During the call with Hoka,
190515 - Selena suggested contacting Running Warehouse to buy more Hoka Stinson
190516 - Lite shoes that have proven effective hiking 2300 miles the past 8
190517 - months. ref SDS 0 TL5K Found Running Warehouse on the Internet. They
190518 - offer Hoka Stinson Lite shoes at discount of $110, reflecting this
190519 - model is going out of production. ref SDS 0 TL5K Bought 2 pair each
190520 - blue and black to align with current practice. Received Running
190521 - Warehouse order acknowledgement letter buying 4 pair Hoka Stinson Lite
190522 - shoes size 10.5 in the amount of $472. ref SDS 0 OR5T
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190530 - ..
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1907 -
1908 - Background
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190901 - On 170713 1640 visit Fleet Feet bought Hoka Conquest shoes size 9.5,
190902 - ref SDS 38 JY56, on invoice 256331/4/21362 for $184.45. ref SDS 38
190903 - N69M
190905 - ..
190906 - On 140721 1225 shown in case study on 120101 0900 hiked 10 miles,
190907 - could not finish 11 mile route, ref SDS 3 ZH4O, feet hurt badly from
190908 - metatrsalgia but worse from severe blisters because shoe heels slipped
190909 - entire route. ref SDS 3 8F5J
190911 - ..
190912 - On 140726 1030 Hoka Conquest shoes caused severe blisters on hikes, so
190913 - went back to Fleet Feet and requested possible remedies. ref SDS 39
190914 - JY56 Fleet Feet exchanged the shoes and replaced with Hoka Stinson
190915 - Trail shoes. ref SDS 39 LE7M
190917 - ..
190918 - On 140828 1203 visited Fleet Feet in Pleasant Hill to buy new Hoka
190919 - Stinson Trail shoes, ref SDS 40 915F, purchased only a month ago on
190920 - 140726, ref SDS 39 LE7M, because heel lining has worn out after 25% of
190921 - design life, hiking 145 miles in 17 hikes over 32 days, shown in case
190922 - study on 140828 1203. ref SDS 40 OZ5H
190924 - ..
190925 - On 140828 1352 took 1st pair Hoka Stinson Trail shoes to Dean's Shoe
190926 - Repair to fix failed heel lining. ref SDS 41 XN5F
190928 - ..
190929 - On 140905 1058 called Fleet Feet and discussed with Kathie, visiting
190930 - Joann's Fabrics for material to replace heel linings in Hoka Stinson
190931 - Trail shoes, reported in the record on 140903 1330. ref SDS 45 OM6O
190932 - Kathie suggested contacting Hoka directly to get the product
190933 - specification. ref SDS 46 GY9M,
190935 - ..
190936 - On 140905 2103 letter to Hoka requests product specification for
190937 - material to repair heel lining in Hoka Stinson Trail shoes.
190938 - ref SDS 47 QE5I
190940 - ..
190941 - On 140906 1413 letter from Hoka submits information that is
190942 - insufficient to buy material for repairing failed heel lining on Hoka
190943 - Stinson Trail shoes, ref SDS 48 QE5I, which was requested in the
190944 - letter to Hoka yesterday on 140905 2103. ref SDS 47 DT8N
190946 - ..
190947 - On 140906 1413 at 1425 called Hoka and talked to Amber. ref SDS 48
190948 - EU5I Amber said her supervisor suggested file warranty claim replace
190949 - Hoka shoes, since they wore out in only a month use making 17 hikes
190950 - and only 145 miles. Ambe said that Hoka warrants their shoes for 1
190951 - year. ref SDS 48 HU7H
190953 - ..
190954 - On 141002 0752 shipped for replacement via UPS tracking #
190955 - 1ZW2119W0391834696 the 1st pair Hoka Stinson Trail shoes under RMA
190956 - RA01605651_RCEX claim that shoe linings failed after 1 month, 11
190957 - months less that 12 month warranty. ref SDS 55 ZN5G
190959 - ..
190960 - On 141010 1602 called and talked to Dimitri; he advised that Hoka
190961 - received the shoes under RMA # RA01605651_RCEX on 141006; customer can
190962 - expect to receive response to claim within 10 days or about on 141016.
190963 - ref SDS 56 XN5F
190965 - ..
190966 - On 141021 1741 Hoka approved warranty claim awarded credit $174 to buy
190967 - shoes to replace failed Hoka Stinson Trail shoes heel linings.
190968 - ref SDS 57 XN5F
190970 - ..
190971 - On 141026 1617 ordered Hoka Stinson Lite shoes to replace 1st pair
190972 - Hoka Stinson Trail shoes that failed, explained in the claim filed on
190973 - 141002 0752. ref SDS 55 ZN5G
190975 - ..
190976 - On 141029 Hoka issued another credit #6035710238690051047 in the
190977 - amount of $174.40 to buy another pair of Hoka Stinson shoes.
190978 - ref SDS 62 XN5F
190980 - ..
190981 - On 141029 1627 received 1st pair Hoka Stinson Lite shoes grey to
190982 - replace 1st pair Hoka Stinson Trail shoes. ref SDS 63 XN5F
190984 - ..
190985 - On 141030 2329 ordered 2nd pair Hoka Stinson Lite shoes using credit
190986 - offered by Hoka. ref SDS 64 0001
190988 - ..
190989 - On 141104 1624 received 2nd pair Hoka Stinson Lite shoes blue to
190990 - replace defective Hoka Stinson Trail shoes. ref SDS 65 XN5F
190992 - ..
190993 - On 141219 0752 shipped for replacement via UPS tracking #
190994 - 1ZW2119W0300709484 the 2nd and 3rd pair Hoka Stinson Trail shoes under
190995 - RMA # RA01803083_RCEX and # RA01803130_RCEX claim that shoe linings
190996 - failed after 1 month, 11 months less that 12 month warranty.
190997 - ref SDS 66 JF6G
190999 - ..
191000 - On 141226 0753 Hoka approved warranty claim awarded credit $348.80 to
191001 - buy shoes to replace failed Hoka Stinson Trail shoes heel linings.
191002 - ref SDS 67 XN5F
191004 - ..
191005 - On 150102 1708 received another 2 pair Hoka Stinson Lite shoes.
191006 - ref SDS 68 B85H
191008 - ..
191009 - On 150719 0826 existing 4 pair Stinson Lite shoes have work out after
191010 - about 570 miles each. ref SDS 69 XN5F Ordered 2 pair Stinson Lite
191011 - shoes to replace shoes that are worn out. ref SDS 69 PM4H Ordered
191012 - another 2 pair Stinson 3 shoes that is a new design that replaces
191013 - Stinson Lite. ref SDS 69 G18O Called back and was notified that Hoka
191014 - warranty is for 1 year, so cancelled both orders. ref SDS 69 TX60
191015 - Considered filing claim to get 4 new pair of shoes. ref SDS 69 H66H
191016 - Finally ordered 1 pair Hoka Stinson 3 shoes. ref SDS 69 OW8N
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1913 - Progress
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191401 - Hoka Return Stinson 3 Size 10.5 Narrower than Stinson Lite
191402 -
191403 - Follow up ref SDS 70 XN5F, ref SDS 69 XN5F.
191404 -
191405 - This morning returned Hoka Stinson 3 shoes on order #11786303 placed
191406 - on 150719. ref SDS 69 G63I The shoes were found to be too narrow when
191407 - received on 150722 1011. ref SDS 70 L95N
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191801 - Hoka Constant Size 9.5 Received Not Equal Stinson Lite
191802 -
191803 - Follow up ref SDS 70 XW7J.
191804 -
191805 - Checked and found UPS delivered Hoka Constant shoes size 9.5; left on
191806 - the front porch. This product was provided by Hoka in exchange
191807 - transaction on 150722 1011, ref SDS 70 XW7J, to correct problems with
191808 - order #11786303 placed on 150719. ref SDS 69 G63I
191810 - ..
191811 - Tried the shoes walking around shopping at Costco and going to UPS.
191813 - ..
191814 - The Hoka Constant size 9.5 shoes received today are substantially
191815 - different from Hoka Stinson Lite and Stinson 3 shoes. There is less
191816 - rebound energy (bounce) that aids walking and running. There is less
191817 - cushioning on the forefoot so there is less protection from
191818 - metatarsalgia. Seems like less cushioning in the heel which likely
191819 - causes less rebound energy (bounce). Height of the heel is lower,
191820 - causing the foot to slip almost entirely out of the shoe with each
191821 - step.
191823 - ..
191824 - Called Hoka.....
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191826 - 1-866-491-3125
191828 - ..
191829 - Talked to Selena...
191831 - ..
191832 - Reviewed order #............................. 11786303
191834 - ..
191835 - Placed on.................................... 150719 0826, ref SDS 69 OW8N
191837 - ..
191838 - Reviewed exchange to Constant shoes recommended as identical to
191839 - Stinson Lite, but with wider toe line, by Nathaniel at Hoka on 150722
191840 - 1011. ref SDS 70 G46L
191842 - ..
191843 - Reported Hoka Constant shoes received today, are substantially
191844 - inferior to Hoka Stinson Lite for cushioning that protects against
191845 - feet injuries, like metatarsalgia, and have less rebound energy
191846 - required for hiking fast, per above. ref SDS 0 XX8F
191848 - ..
191849 - Explained background hiking 2300 miles the past 8 months wearing Hoka
191850 - Stinson Lite size 10. In the past month or so, have begun getting
191851 - continuing blisters, possibly related to size 10 being too narrow.
191853 - ..
191854 - Selena suggested returning defective Constant shoes for refund today,
191855 - and to enable continued training for Half Dome, order the single pair
191856 - of Hoka Stinson Lite shoes size 10.5 still remaining in Hoka
191857 - inventory, since that model has been effective in this case for the
191858 - past year.
191860 - ..
191861 - Selena checked inventory stock and found Hoka has available...
191862 -
191863 - Hoka Stinson Lite black size 10.5
191865 - ..
191866 - Selena advised that Hoka is scheduled to begin selling Stinson 3 shoes
191867 - with variable width across the toe line, so it will not necessary to
191868 - buy shoes too long (here size 10.5) in order to get shoes with good
191869 - width fit. When this new inventory becomes available in October, can
191870 - try Stinson 3 for solving problem of being too narrow reported for
191871 - Stinson 3 size 10 on 150722 1011. ref SDS 70 L95N
191873 - ..
191874 - Agreed to this plan.
191876 - ..
191877 - While talking Selena placed following order...
191878 -
191879 - 1. Subject: Your order has been received.
191880 - Date: 2015-07-24 16:59
191884 - ..
191885 - 2. Order Date.................................. 07/24/2015
191886 - Order #..................................... 11799978
191888 - ..
191889 - 3. Billing Address:
191898 - ..
191899 - 4. Shipping Address:
191908 - ..
191909 - 5. Items Ordered:
191910 - Name SKU Quantity Unit Cost Subtotal
191911 - Stinson Lite-BLACK / TRUE RED 30108026-BTRRD-10.5 1 $160.00 $160.00
191913 - ..
191914 - 6. As soon as your order has shipped, you will receive another
191915 - email from us with shipping details. We hope you have had an
191916 - enjoyable shopping experience! If there is anything we can do
191917 - to improve your experience, please let us know.
191919 - ..
191920 - 7. Product Subtotal....................... $160.00
191921 - Shipping: $15.00
191922 - Shipping Discount: -$15.00
191923 - Tax..................................... 14.40
191924 - Order Total............................ $174.40
191926 - ..
191927 - Post expense ledger...
191930 -
191932 - ..
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191936 -
191937 - 9. customerservicehokaus@deckers.com
191938 - 1-866-491-3125
191940 - ..
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191949 -
191951 - ..
191952 - Asked for source on additional Hoka Stinson Lite size 10.5, since we
191953 - need 7 pair to rotate through the week and last a year hiking 3000
191954 - miles?
191956 - ..
191957 - Selena said to investigate Running Warehouse for more inventory on
191958 - Hoka Stinson Lite at this time.
191960 - ..
191961 - She feels that since Hoka Sinson Lite shoes size 10 have proven
191962 - effective but still too narrow, should order size 10.5.
191964 - ..
191965 - Will try to get at least 5 or 6 until October when variable width
191966 - Stinson 3 shoes will be available from Hoka.
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1923 -
192301 - Found location for...
192302 -
192303 - Running Warehouse
192305 - ..
192306 - HOKA ONE ONE Stinson Lite Men's Shoes Black/Red
192307 -
192308 - http://www.runningwarehouse.com/HOKA_ONE_ONE_Stinson_Lite/descpage-HOSLM3.html
192310 - ..
192311 - Price.............................. $109.88
192312 -
192314 - ..
192315 - HOKA ONE ONE Stinson Lite Men's Shoes Blue/White/Black
192316 -
192317 - http://www.runningwarehouse.com/HOKA_ONE_ONE_Stinson_Lite/descpage-HOSLM1.html
192319 - ..
192320 - Price.............................. $109.88
192322 - ..
192323 - They show only 4 pair in inventory, so decided to order 2 each, and in
192324 - size 10.5 to see if this provides increased width to prevent blister
192325 - problems, but not cause the foot to move up and down in the extra
192326 - length, which can also cause blisters.
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1927 -
192701 - Received letter from Running Warehouse saying...
192702 -
192703 - 1. Subject: Running Warehouse Order Acknowledgement
192704 - Date: 2015-07-24 18:41
192708 - ..
192709 - 2. Thank you for placing an order with Running Warehouse!
192711 - ..
192712 - 3. Your order has been submitted. Our customer service staff will
192713 - review the order and send an order confirmation containing your
192714 - order number within one business day.
192716 - ..
192717 - 4. Billing/Primary Address Shipping Address
192722 - ..
192723 - 5. Contact Information
192728 - ..
192729 - 6. Your Order........................... 2888219
192730 -
192731 - Invoice.............................. 300866
192733 - ..
192734 - 7. Product Name Quan Price Total Price
192735 - HOKA Stinson Lite Men Shoe Bl/Wh/Bk 10.5 D 2 $109.88 $219.76
192736 - HOKA Stinson Lite Men Shoe Blk/Red 10.5 D 2 $109.88 $219.76
192737 - Sub Total.................................. $439.52
192738 - Sales Tax.................................. $32.96
192739 - Golden State Overnight Shipping............ $0.00
192740 - Grand Total................................ $472.48
192742 - ..
192743 - Post expense ledger...
192747 - ..
192748 - 8. Click Here for more details about your domestic shipment -->
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192754 - 10. Message ID: -2433607
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193101 - Sent letter today to thank John at Resole America for recommending
193102 - Hokas...
193103 -
193104 - 1. Subject: Hoka Shoes Prevent Metatarsalgia
193105 - Date: 2015-07-24 14:19
193112 - ..
193113 - 2. Thanks for the lead on getting Hoka shoes, presented in your
193114 - letter last year on July 8. ref SDS 36 XN5F Had to go try
193115 - several different models, but Hoka was very good about
193116 - exchanging models. The past year hiked 2700 miles with 4 pair
193117 - of Hoka Stinson Lite shoes. This effort increased HDL from
193118 - mid-40s to 70. Nominally, HDL lipids are difficult to
193119 - increase. It can only be accomplished with extended endurance
193120 - exercise. Elevated HDL above 60, regresses atherosclerosis, a
193121 - significant factor extending life, assuming you don't get run
193122 - over by a truck out hiking.
193124 - ..
193125 - 3. In my case the shoes are critical to resolve and prevent
193126 - metatarsalgia. As well, Hokas have excellent rebound energy,
193127 - making long hikes faster and easier. Currently, my feet are
193128 - sliding off the sides of the Hoka shoes due to wear. I'm
193129 - guessing it would not be practical to resole Hokas because the
193130 - key component is the midsole. If you would like to take a
193131 - look, let me know. It may be that if the shoes are resoled
193132 - before the midsole gets worn, then the outer sole could be
193133 - replaced.
193135 - ..
193136 - 4. Just now going through process of getting new Hoka shoes. Like
193137 - everyone Hoka changed the design, so having to start over
193138 - experimenting. Lots of fun.
193140 - ..
193141 - 5. Just wanted to express appreciation for your excellent work
193142 - resoling several pair of my Adidas shoes. I still wear them
193143 - but not for daily 11 mile hikes.
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