THE WELCH COMPANY
440 Davis Court #1602
San Francisco, CA 94111-2496
415 781 5700
rod@welchco.com
S U M M A R Y
DIARY: June 4, 2015 08:22 AM Thursday;
Rod Welch
Morris called on spec for c22 Intel E5-2690 v2 system
1...Summary/Objective
2...C22 Assemble PC i7-5960x or Xeon System
3...Components Xeon E5-2690 v2 System
............ASUS #Z10PE-D8 WS ASUS Z10PE-D8 WS Dual LGA2011-v3 Intel
............C612 PCH DDR4 4-Way CrossFireX & 4-Way SLI SATA3&USB3.0
............M.2&SATA Express A&V&2GbE EEB Server Motherboard
..............
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SUBJECTS
C22 Procurement $5500 Alternate Defer Features $4160 Assembly Projec
2903 -
2903 - ..
2904 - Summary/Objective
2905 -
290501 - Follow up ref SDS 11 0000. ref SDS 8 0000.
290502 -
290503 -
290504 -
290505 -
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290507 -
290508 -
290510 - ..
2906 -
2907 -
2908 - Progress
2909 -
290901 - C22 Assemble PC i7-5960x or Xeon System
290902 -
290903 - Follow up ref SDS 11 NQ5F, ref SDS 8 NQ5F.
290904 -
290905 - On 150530 placed order for c22 i7-5960x system. ref SDS 10 665H
290907 - ..
290908 - On 150602 discussed with Morris assembling Xeon system for c22.
290909 - ref SDS 11 PY8N
290911 - ..
290912 - On 150603 0727 notified Ascentech to put order hold while
290913 - investigating Xeon system; does Ascentech support Xeon systems.
290914 - ref SDS 12 IQ4K
290916 - ..
290917 - Called Morris this morning. He received the letter submitted on
290918 - 150602 0951. ref SDS 11 HS5F
290920 - ..
290921 - This morning Morris seemed to clarify earlier remarks on Medit design
290922 - for maximum 4GB of memory.
290924 - ..
290925 - Not clear in the record how this relates to switching from i7-5960x to
290926 - Xeon system, initially discussed with Morris on 150602 0951.
290927 - ref SDS 11 XM9K
290929 - ..
290930 - Morris noted that motherbord specifies DDR3 memory, which conflicts
290931 - with proposed procurement of DDR4 memory. These have to match.
290933 - ..
290934 - After the call, found a DDR4 motherboard for another $50. Morris took
290935 - Teri to breakfast. Sent a letter notifying of Asus DDR4 motherboard.
290936 - ref SDS 0 254K
290938 - ..
290939 - Morris further noted Xeon motherboards may not support LAN, eSATA,
290940 - nor wi-fi wireless.
290942 - ..
290943 - During the call noticed the Corsair case weights 41 pounds.
290944 - ref SDS 11 5X3J With components this could weight 60 pounds or more,
290945 - which would be very difficult to handle. Will find another case.
290947 - ..
290948 - There was discussion this dual processor system, needs dual liquid
290949 - cooling components. ref SDS 11 PTWT
290951 - ..
290952 - Morris left for breakfast with Teri.
290954 - ..
290955 - After the call with Morris this morning, further research resolved
290956 - issues, as follows...
290957 -
290959 - ..
290960 - Components Xeon E5-2690 v2 System
290961 -
290962 - Purpose for procurement is reported on 150530 2136. ref SDS 10 665H
290963 -
290964 -
290965 - 1. Motherboard
290966 -
290967 - Amazon
290969 - ..
290970 - ASUS #Z10PE-D8 WS ASUS Z10PE-D8 WS Dual LGA2011-v3 Intel
290971 - C612 PCH DDR4 4-Way CrossFireX & 4-Way SLI SATA3&USB3.0
290972 - M.2&SATA Express A&V&2GbE EEB Server Motherboard
290973 -
290974 - http://www.amazon.com/Z10PE-D8-WS-LGA2011-v3-CrossFireX-Motherboard/dp/B00P98C9XY
290975 -
290976 - Price.....(3 new).............................. $ 525.00
290977 -
290978 - 1. Quad Strength Graphic Power - 4-Way PCI-E Gen3 x16
290979 - link supporting NVidia GeForce SLI and AMD CrossFireX
290980 - on demand
290982 - ..
290983 - 2. Supreme Power Solution - Premium components deliver
290984 - industry-leading power efficiency
290986 - ..
290987 - 3. Unique BIOS for Dual CPU OC Boost CPU's
290988 - overclocking performance up to 10%
290990 - ..
290991 - 4. Superb storage flexibility onboard M.2 x4 and support
290992 - for ASUS PIKE II cards
290994 - ..
290995 - 5. Easy maintenance-ASUS Q-Code Logger, an
290996 - easy-maintenance button and Dr Power LED displays
290997 - unusual power statuses
290999 - ..
291000 - Product specifications with large scale picture at...
291001 -
291002 - https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/Z10PED8_WS/
291004 - ..
291005 - This shows Z10PE-D8 WS form factor...
291006 -
291007 - EEB Form Factor
291008 - 12 inch x 13 inch ( 30.5 cm x 33.02 cm )
291009 -
291011 - ..
291012 - 2. CPU - dual processors
291013 -
291014 - Amazon
291016 - ..
291017 - Intel Xeon E5-2690 v2 Ten-Core Processor 3.0GHz 8.0GT/s 25MB
291018 - LGA 2011 CPU BX80635E52690V2
291020 - ..
291021 - Processor reviewed on 140421 1601. ref SDS 4 RB9H
291023 - ..
291024 - Price............................... $1,981
291025 -
291026 - http://www.amazon.com/Intel-E5-2690-Ten-Core-Processor-BX80635E52690V2/dp/B00F0R730S/ref=sr_1_14/179-6733417-9574002?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1433023044&sr=1-14
291028 - ..
291029 - If we need 2....
291030 -
291031 - Price............................... $1,981
291032 -
291033 - Total.......................................... $3,962.00
291035 - ..
291036 - Xeon system was recently considered though the work was reported in
291037 - the record on 140421 1601. ref SDS 4 RB9H
291039 - ..
291040 - Passmark tests for Xeon dual E5-2690 v2 system - 24471, compared to
291041 - i7-390x - 12737 installed in c21. ref SDS 4 7H9O
291042 -
291044 - ..
291045 - 3. Thermal Greese for CPU Cooling Fans 1 Pak
291046 -
291047 - Price.......................................... 6.99
291049 - ..
291050 - Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound 3.5 Grams
291052 - ..
291053 - Amazon
291054 -
291055 - http://www.amazon.com/Arctic-Silver-Thermal-Compound-Grams/dp/B000OGX5AM/ref=pd_bxgy_147_text_z/190-2162898-1472437
291056 -
291058 - ..
291059 - 4. Liquid Water Cooling System-All Sockets!
291060 -
291061 - Thermaltake Water 3.0 Pro All-In-One Liquid Cooling System
291062 - CLW0223
291064 - ..
291065 - This changes from original specification on 150602 0951. ref SDS 11
291066 - PTWT
291067 -
291068 - http://www.amazon.com/Thermaltake-Performer-All-In-One-Cooling-CLW0222/dp/B00DZL863Y
291070 - ..
291071 - Price.......................................... 89.29 free shipping
291072 - Need 2......................................... 89.29
291074 - ..
291075 - This cooling system for dual processor is shown in video on building
291076 - Asus dual Z10PE-D8 WS processor system, per above. ref SDS 0 XF4J
291078 - ..
291079 - After we placed the order, the price went up $10.
291080 -
291082 - ..
291083 - 5. Memory 64 GB (motherboard supports 3300 MHz memory)
291084 -
291085 - Amazon...
291087 - ..
291088 - Corsair Vengeance LPX 64GB (8 x 8GB) DDR4 DRAM 2133MHz C13
291089 - memory kit for DDR4 Systems DDR4 2133 MT/s (PC4-17000
291090 -
291091 - http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-2133MHz-PC4-17000-CMK64GX4M8A2133C13/dp/B00PTT3Z5Y
291093 - ..
291094 - Price.......................................... 712.79 free shipping
291095 -
291096 - [On 150605 1023 next day placed Amazon order #
291097 - 112-1585048-6348231, and Amazon honored a lower price
291098 - posted of $629.99, $80 savings. ref SDS 14 YF5H
291100 - ..
291101 - 6. Disk drive primary - SSD
291102 -
291103 - Amazon...
291105 - ..
291106 - Samsung 850 Pro 256GB 2.5-Inch SATA III Internal SSD
291107 - (MZ-7KE256BW)
291108 -
291109 - http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-256GB-2-5-Inch-Internal-MZ-7KE256BW/dp/B00LMXBOP4
291111 - ..
291112 - Price.......................................... 149.39 free shipping
291113 -
291115 - ..
291116 - 7. Disk secondary drive - SSD
291118 - ..
291119 - Amazon...
291121 - ..
291122 - Samsung 850 Pro 512GB 2.5-Inch SATA III Internal SSD
291123 - (MZ-7KE512BW)
291124 -
291125 - http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-256GB-2-5-Inch-Internal-MZ-7KE256BW/dp/B00LMXBOP4
291127 - ..
291128 - Price.......................................... 259.00 free shipping
291129 -
291131 - ..
291132 - 8. Hard Disk Drive
291133 -
291134 - Amazon
291136 - ..
291137 - Seagate 4TB NAS HDD SATA 6Gb/s NCQ 64MB Cache 3.5-Inch
291138 - Internal Bare Drive (ST4000VN000)
291139 -
291140 - http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Cache-3-5-Inch-Internal-ST4000VN000/dp/B00D1GYO4S/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1433541015&sr=1-1&keywords=Seagate+4TB+NAS+HDD+SATA+6Gb%2Fs+NCQ+64MB+Cache+3.5-Inch&pebp=1433541014661&perid=086D0PJADA3EWB3BNPRR
291142 - ..
291143 - Price.......................................... 157.99 free shipping
291145 - ..
291146 - 9. Secondary HDD...
291148 - ..
291149 - Amazon
291151 - ..
291152 - Seagate 8TB Internal Hard drive 3.5 inch SATA 6GB/s 128 MB
291153 - buffer (ST8000AS0002)
291154 -
291155 - http://www.amazon.com/Archive-3-5-Internal-Hard-Drive/dp/B00QX0ZGO6/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1433541103&sr=1-1&keywords=ST8000AS0002&pebp=1433541100081&perid=05X2W0TV5APFPRN17BK5
291157 - ..
291158 - Price.......................................... 272.97 free shipping
291159 -
291161 - ..
291162 - 10. External SATA 6GB/s port
291163 -
291164 - Amazon
291166 - ..
291167 - StarTech PEXESAT32 2 Port SATA 6 Gbps PCI Express eSATA
291168 - Controller Card
291169 -
291170 - http://www.amazon.com/StarTech-com-Port-Express-eSATA-Controller/dp/B00952N2DQ/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1433540503&sr=8-5&keywords=sata+pci-e+card
291172 - ..
291173 - Price.......................................... 25.96
291174 -
291176 - ..
291177 - 11. Video adapter...
291178 -
291179 - Amazon...
291181 - ..
291182 - EVGA GTX980 Superclocked 4GB GDDR5 256bit, DVI-I, DP x 3,
291183 - HDMI, SLI Ready Graphics Card (04G-P4-2982-KR)
291184 -
291185 - http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GTX980-Superclocked-Graphics-04G-P4-2982-KR/dp/B00NI5DA2E
291187 - ..
291188 - Price................................ 572.99
291189 -
291191 - ..
291192 - 12. LAN adapter 10/100/1000MBPS GIGABIT CARDS
291193 -
291194 - Included on motherboard, per above. ref SDS 0 XF4J
291195 -
291197 - ..
291198 - 13. CD port
291199 -
291200 - Amazon
291202 - ..
291203 - Asus 24x DVD-RW Serial-ATA Internal OEM Optical Drive
291204 - DRW-24B1ST (Black)
291205 -
291206 - http://www.amazon.com/Asus-Serial-ATA-Internal-Optical-DRW-24B1ST/dp/B0033Z2BAQ
291208 - ..
291209 - Price............................................ 20.49 free shipping
291210 -
291212 - ..
291213 - 14. Wireless adapter
291214 -
291215 - TP-LINK TL-WDN4800 Dual Band Wireless N900 PCI Express
291216 - Adapter,2.4GHz 450Mbps/5Ghz 450Mbps, Include Low-profile
291217 - Bracket
291218 -
291219 - http://www.amazon.com/TP-LINK-TL-WDN4800-Wireless-Express-Low-profile/dp/B007GMPZ0A
291221 - ..
291222 - Price............................................ 38.84 free shipping
291224 - ..
291225 - This is like the wireless wi-fi adapter in c21.
291226 -
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291229 - ..
291230 - 15. Case
291231 -
291232 - Amazon
291234 - ..
291235 - Corsair Obsidian Series 750D Performance Full Tower Case
291236 - CC-9011035-WW
291237 -
291238 - http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Obsidian-Series-Performance-CC-9011035-WW/dp/B00EB6O4N8
291240 - ..
291241 - Price............................................ 128.99 free shipping
291243 - ..
291244 - Product Dimensions: 24 x 12.7 x 24.9 inches; 23.6 pounds
291246 - ..
291247 - On 150530 initally ordered Corsair Obsidian Series 900D Super Tower.
291248 - 150530 2136, ref SDS 10 PUVT This weighs 40 pounds by itself, which
291249 - would make the system fully populated weigh 60 - 80 pounds. It would
291250 - not be practical to move.
291252 - ..
291253 - There are helpful comments with numerous pictures from users showing
291254 - various configurations, and saying the size and design of the case
291255 - aids building the sysem.
291256 -
291257 - [On 150605 0745 telecon with Morris on configuring the
291258 - E5-2690 v2 case in the motherboard. ref SDS 13 TR6K
291260 - ..
291261 - [On 150605 1023 further research supported selection of
291262 - Corsair Obsidian Series 750D case based on compatiblity
291263 - with motherboard Asus Z10PE-D8 WS. ref SDS 15 LX4F
291265 - ..
291266 - [On 150606 1358 total cost of case including shipping
291267 - and taxes $116, after resolving dispute with Amazon.
291268 - ref SDS 16 YO9N
291269 -
291271 - ..
291272 - 16. Power Supply
291274 - ..
291275 - Amazon
291277 - ..
291278 - Corsair RM Series 1000 Watt ATX/EPS 80PLUS Gold-Certified
291279 - Power Supply - CP-9020062-NA RM1000
291281 - ..
291282 - Price............................ 168.99 free shipping
291283 -
291284 - http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Series-80PLUS-Gold-Certified-Supply/dp/B00EB7UIZU
291286 - ..
291287 - Selected 1000 watt power supply, because this is shown in the video
291288 - that shows building a system with the Asus ASUS #Z10PE-D8 WS
291289 - motherboard, per above. ref SDS 0 XF4J
291290 -
291291 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5f6TR8E7PY
291293 - ..
291294 - Actually, it may have turned out the video shows 1000 watt, because
291295 - the build in the video only installed a single processor, instead of
291296 - a dual processor.
291297 -
291299 - ..
291300 - 17. Operating System
291301 -
291302 - Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit OEM SP1
291303 - download delivery
291305 - ..
291306 - Use existing product key for c20, shown in the record on
291307 - 120613 0928, ref SDS 3 NT4M, item #13 in the list...
291311 - ..
291312 - We can take it off line, if necessary.
291314 - ..
291315 - Total with tax about............................ $8000.00
291317 - ..
291318 - See spreadsheet for math...
291319 -
291320 - C:\10\c22_parts_prices.xlsx
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2915 -
2916 - 0936
2917 -
291702 - ..
291703 - Sent letter to Morris saying...
291704 -
291705 - 1. Subject: DDR4 Motherboard
291706 - Date: 2015-06-04 09:40
291710 - ..
291711 - 2. Morris,
291713 - ..
291714 - 3. Found a DDR4 motherboard. For $50 more see what you think...
291715 -
291716 - https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/Z10PED8_WS/
291718 - ..
291719 - 4. Posted this as an alternate in the record listing all parts.
291721 - ..
291722 - 5. Hope you enjoy breakfast. I'm out for about 3 hours hiking,
291723 - and will call when I get back.
291725 - ..
291726 - 6. Need to decide on case, liquid cooler components, wireless and
291727 - eSATA interface.
291729 - ..
291730 - 7. Rod
291731 -
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2920 - 1651
2921 -
292101 - Called Morris.
292102 -
292103 - He has not had time to review the letter on the motherboard spec, per
292104 - above. ref SDS 0 FW4L
292106 - ..
292107 - He is taking Teri to dinner.
292109 - ..
292110 - Will call tomorrow morning about 0745 to finalize procurement on
292111 - system.
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