THE WELCH COMPANY
440 Davis Court #1602
San Francisco, CA 94111-2496
415 781 5700
rod@welchco.com
S U M M A R Y
DIARY: June 7, 2013 07:28 AM Friday;
Rod Welch
C18 install Windows 7 64-bit call HP and Microsoft.
1...Summary/Objective
2...Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit Setup Problems Resolution by Microsoft
3...HP Contacted Work Around BIOS Problem Switch to CD Drive Boot C18
4...HP h8 1280t BIOS Cannot Set CD Boot Drive to Install Windows 7 Full Version
5...HP Supervisor Facilitates Microsoft Support Clean Install Windows 7
6...Microsoft Verifies Valid Product Key for Customer Support Windows 7
7...Conference Call HP and Microsoft Resolve Windows 7 Clean Install Problem
8...Microsoft Account Purchased for 1 Year Customer Support $150
9...Customer Support Contract Ordered to Resolve Clean Install Problem Windows 7
10...Validation Code Required for Customer Support Case 1207966235
11...HP Drops Conference Call Will Follow Up on Results
12...Account Security Code Issued for Customer Support Case 1207966235
13...Microsoft Notice Payment Received for Customer Support Account
14...Scope Microsoft Customer Support for 1 Year
15...Microsoft 4th Letter on Case 1207966235 and Scope Customer Support
16...Windows 7 Install Successful on C18 Before Microsoft Support Begins
17...Microsoft Escalates Case 1207966235 to Level 2 Support on Internet Access
18...Microsoft Letter Notice Case 1207966235 to Level 2 Support
19...HP Requests Feedback Micosoft Findings Windows Installation C18
20...Microsoft Level 2 Customer Support Install Windows 7 Ultimate on C18
21...Windows 7 Repair New Windows 7 Full Version Installation
22...Microsoft Says Run Upgrade CD to Repair Windows 7 Ultimate OS
23...Upgrade Failed Complete Running in New Wndows 7 Full Version Installation
24...Microsoft Called Back Notified Windows Repair Failed to Complete
25...Hardware Conflict Considered Causing Persistent Windows Setup Failure
26...Microsoft Proposes Run Failing Upgrade Another Hour to Repair Windows 7 Full Version Installation
27...Upgrade Failed Started New Clean Install Windows 7 Full Version C18
28...Microsoft Proposes Run Custom Format Clean Install Windows 7 Full Version
29...Windows 7 Installation Fails Requires Solution EFI MBR Conflict
30...EFI MBR Conflict Requires Solution Windows 7 Installation Fails Persistently
31...Microsoft Proposes Modify BIOS to Boot from CD Avoid EFI MBR Conflict
32...Microsoft Cites BIOS Configuration Limitations HP Problem Solve C18 Setup
33...HP Requests Feedback Micosoft Findings Guide Resolution Setup Failure C18
34...Microsoft Refuses Feedback Findings HP Problem BIOS Setup Problem
35...Microsoft Requests Feedback on Support Fix Windows 7 Installation Problem
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SUBJECTS
C18 Serial 2MD20606BY Receive H8 1280t Wrong Computer Procurement Or
H8 1280t Introduction 120128 Ship Without Specified Components Proce
2504 -
2504 - ..
2505 - Summary/Objective
2506 -
250601 - Follow up ref SDS 56 0000. ref SDS 54 0000.
250602 -
250603 - Today, called HP for guidance on setting BIOS for c18 to boot from CD,
250604 - ref SDS 0 LF4G HP recommended changing BIOS to boot from CD. When
250605 - this failed HP reported BIOS for h8 1280t cannot be set to boot from
250606 - CD. ref SDS 0 0254 The case was escalated to a supervisor. She
250607 - facilitated conference call with Microsoft. ref SDS 0 RL4H Microsoft
250608 - sold the customer a support contract for 1 year costing $150.
250609 - ref SDS 56 AY5M Administration on this transaction preceeding
250610 - technical support took over an hour, so HP supervisor dropped from
250611 - conference call, with plan to call back for report on progress.
250612 - ref SDS 0 I54F After an hour or so of administation buying suppot and
250613 - getting 4 or 5 lettes from Microsoft on administrative matters for
250614 - support case 1207966235, Jen then said work could commence on solving
250615 - Windows setup problem on c18. Windows 7 then installed on c18 without
250616 - any evident support from Microsoft. ref SDS 0 PT4O There were
250617 - problems setting up networking and Internet access on c18, so the case
250618 - was escalated to level 2 support. ref SDS 0 HH3I Level 2 support
250619 - suggested running the "upgrade" code in Windows 7 setup CD to perform
250620 - a "repair" on the Windows 7 Ultimate operating system just installed.
250621 - This failed, and corrupted the installed operating system, required a
250622 - Ctrl Alt Del re-boot to end stalled upgrade process. ref SDS 0 QY63
250623 - Microsoft did futher research and indicated Windows setup may be
250624 - failing due to a hardware conflict. ref SDS 0 KQ6F Seveal more clean
250625 - installs were attempted and failed. ref SDS 0 4W8H Microsoft called
250626 - back with results of further research. Recommended changing the BIOS
250627 - to boot from the CD in order to avoid Microsoft error message that EFI
250628 - and MBR conflict prevents installing Windows 7. ref SDS 0 3Y6F
250629 - Reviewed record this failed on c18, ref SDS 0 GP5O, and that HP
250630 - advised that HP model h8 1280t BIOS does not support setting CD to
250631 - boot drive. ref SDS 0 0254 Microsoft then proposed ending support to
250632 - perfom more research, and planned to call back today for further
250633 - efforts to solve the problem.
250634 -
250635 -
250636 -
250638 - ..
2507 -
2508 -
2509 - Progress
2510 -
251001 - Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit Setup Problems Resolution by Microsoft
251002 -
251003 - Follow up ref SDS 56 RL3H, ref SDS 54 7T9I.
251004 -
251005 - Background - on Wedensday, started re-installing Windows 7 Ultimate
251006 - 64-bit on c18, HP h8 1280t desktop, shown on 130605 1444. ref SDS 56
251007 - RL3H This was required to correct failure of the operating system,
251008 - reported a weeks earlier reported on 130519 1704. ref SDS 55 Y55H
251009 - Windows setup reported EFI system conflicted with MBR partition table,
251010 - and this prevented installing the operating system, also shown 130605
251011 - 1444, ref SDS 56 V46N Internet research found solution to set BIOS
251012 - for booting from CD. Was unable to assign CD for boot drive on c18,
251013 - h8 1280t. ref SDS 56 014P Thursday.
251015 - ..
251016 - Today, having problem getting BIOS to respond to selecting CD for boot
251017 - drive. Instructions say to press Eneter, but system fails to boot.
251018 - Instructions say to press ESC to ignore changes and use default boot
251019 - settings. Could only press ESC to advance so tried that, and system
251020 - seemed to run boot normally.
251022 - ..
251023 - Previously, tried instructions listed on 130605 1444. ref SDS 56 014P
251024 -
251025 - diskpart
251026 - list disk
251027 - select disk 0
251028 - clean
251029 - convert mbr
251030 - create parition primary size=222000
251031 - assign letter=C
251032 - format fs=ntfs unit=4096
251033 - active......................boot partition
251034 - create parition primary
251035 - assign letter=D
251037 - ..
251038 - This did not solve problem, still getting error reported on 130605
251039 - 1444. ref SDS 56 V46N
251041 - ..
251042 - As reported on 130605, when c18 powers up there is message to press
251043 - Enter for switching to CD drive; however, the problem may be that the
251044 - system initially checked the hard drive and the BIOS then sets a flag
251045 - that EFI system is active for installation, and this may be preventing
251046 - implementing solution to EFI system and MBR conflict problem, reported
251047 - on the Internet from research on 130605 1444. ref SDS 56 014P
251048 -
251049 -
251050 -
251051 -
251053 - ..
2511 -
2512 -
2513 - 0822
2514 -
251401 - HP Contacted Work Around BIOS Problem Switch to CD Drive Boot C18
251402 -
251403 - Called HP at...
251404 -
251405 - 888 999 4747
251407 - ..
251408 - Shown in the record purchasing c18 on 120320 1643. ref SDS 34 DL4R
251410 - ..
251411 - Talked to Sujan in India...
251413 - ..
251414 - Case number.................... 8066880976
251416 - ..
251417 - Product information for c18 shown in the record on 120320 1643.
251418 - ref SDS 34 EY9M
251420 - ..
251421 - Sujan suggested...
251422 -
251423 - Remove cd from port
251425 - ..
251426 - Boot cpu and tap F11
251428 - ..
251429 - He said this should open BIOS for setting boot drive to CD drive.
251431 - ..
251432 - F11 did not work to open BIOS.
251434 - ..
251435 - Sujan said this failure was caused by customer installing Windows 7
251436 - last year, which removed HP drivers.
251438 - ..
251439 - We then opened the BIOS with ESC.
251441 - ..
251442 - Sujan said to open the "Boot Menu" in the BIOS and change the boot
251443 - drive to CD instead of boot manager.
251445 - ..
251446 - Explained problem encountered previously on 130605 1444. ref SDS 56
251447 - 014P
251448 -
251450 - ..
251451 - HP h8 1280t BIOS Cannot Set CD Boot Drive to Install Windows 7 Full Version
251452 -
251453 - Sujan then advised that the BIOS for the h8 1280t computer does not
251454 - support selecting CD for the boot drive, even though that selection is
251455 - listed in the BIOS Boot Menu. He recommended installing the HP
251456 - recovery CD to restore the original factory version of Windows 7 on
251457 - the computer.
251459 - ..
251460 - He further advised that recovery CD is not shipped with the computer.
251462 - ..
251463 - Explained that last year when we received c18 from HP, we did a clean
251464 - install of Windows 7 Ultimate in order to setup the computer for
251465 - effective business use. At that time, we did not have these
251466 - difficulties installing from the cd drive, reported on 120429 2236.
251467 - ref SDS 54 7T9I
251469 - ..
251470 - Sujan indicated that since this is the 2nd clean install, the original
251471 - drivers are not on the computer, so clean installation of Windows 7
251472 - full version fails.
251474 - ..
251475 - Sujan said HP will ship a recovery disk to the customer. It has to be
251476 - installed, then Windows 7 full version can be installed clean, and
251477 - this configuration will clear the error, above. ref SDS 56 J74H
251479 - ..
251480 - Asked if there is a better solution?
251482 - ..
251483 - Sujan went off line to research the matter further.
251484 -
251485 -
251487 - ..
2515 -
2516 -
2517 - 0915
2518 -
251801 - Sujan came back online.
251802 -
251803 - He has consulted with management and is transferring the call to level
251804 - 2 support to complete transaction on shipping recovery CD.
251805 -
251807 - ..
2519 -
2520 -
2521 - 0925
2522 -
252201 - HP Supervisor Facilitates Microsoft Support Clean Install Windows 7
252202 -
252203 - Talked to Sue...
252204 -
252205 - Sue feels there may better solution to meet customer requirements than
252206 - to ship a recovery disk, proposed by Sujan, per above. ref SDS 0 O669
252208 - ..
252209 - She will coordinate a solution with Microsoft by setting up a
252210 - conference call.
252212 - ..
252213 - Sue has a 10 minute meeting, and then will call back...
252214 -
252216 - ..
2523 -
2524 -
2525 - 1009
2526 -
252601 - Sue called back.
252602 -
252603 - She is ready to get support from Microsoft with a conference call.
252605 - ..
252606 - Sue called Microsoft...
252608 - ..
252609 - Microsoft Technical Support...
252610 -
252611 - 800-642 7676
252613 - ..
252614 - Another number is...
252615 -
252616 - 800 936 5700
252617 -
252618 - ...implementing Microsoft work plan on 120420 1707. ref SDS 45 TY79
252620 - ..
252621 - Case number........................... 1175180605... from work on
252622 - 120425 0805. ref SDS 50 SH5N
252623 -
252624 -
252626 - ..
2527 -
2528 -
2529 - 1016
2530 -
253001 - Microsoft Verifies Valid Product Key for Customer Support Windows 7
253002 - Conference Call HP and Microsoft Resolve Windows 7 Clean Install Problem
253003 -
253004 - Talked to Mellanie at Microsoft with Sue from HP in a conference call.
253005 -
253006 - Mellanie asked for product key to verify valid full version of
253007 - Windows 7 Ultimate.
253009 - ..
253010 - Product key validated for Windows 7 Ultimate received on 120419 full
253011 - version. ref SDS 43 FS5H
253013 - ..
253014 - Mellanie advised that the product key is for a valid Windows 7
253015 - Ultimate 64-bit full version.
253017 - ..
253018 - Mellanie transferred the call.
253019 -
253021 - ..
2531 -
2532 -
2533 - 1037
2534 -
253401 - Microsoft Account Purchased for 1 Year Customer Support $150
253402 - Customer Support Contract Ordered to Resolve Clean Install Problem Windows 7
253403 -
253404 - Talked to Jen...
253405 -
253406 - Microsoft case number......................... 1207966235
253408 - ..
253409 - Decided to buy 1 year support for $150.
253411 - ..
253412 - Paid with credit card.
253414 - ..
253415 - Post expense ledger...
253419 - ..
253420 - Microsoft Account
253421 -
253422 - https://account.live.com/summarypage.aspx?page=default.srf&id=10&vv=1450&mkt=EN-US&lc=1033
253423 -
253427 - ..
253428 - This account was configured so that the password is maintained by
253429 - Windows 7 OS, which enables opening the account without entering a
253430 - password on each occassion.
253431 -
253432 -
253433 -
253435 - ..
2535 -
2536 -
2537 - 1118
2538 -
253801 - Received letter from Microsoft saying...
253802 -
253803 - 1. Subject: Verify your email address
253804 - Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2013 11:16:46 -0700
253808 - ..
253809 - 2. Hi rod@welchco.com,
253811 - ..
253812 - 3. To finish setting up this Microsoft account, we just need to
253813 - make sure this email address is yours.
253815 - ..
253816 - 4. Click this link to verify your account:
253817 -
253818 - https://account.live.com/Email/Verify?otc=*Ctn33fDIDQBrWln2lzzrmo7ObcFXMU4KK8V59GRV9!aMbOtdyYBpqz816WXLKShgOFUDCy71bzyY844YPwGF9MA$&mn=rod%40welchco.com&ru=https://login.live.com/login.srf%3fbk%3d1370628289%26ru%3dhttps%253a%252f%252flogin.live.com%252flogin.srf%253flc%253d1033%2526mkt%253dEN-US%26uiflavor%3dWeb%26mkt%3dEN-US%26lc%3d1033%26lic%3d1%26sutk%3d1370628961449&cxt=EV
253820 - ..
253821 - 5. If you didn't make this request, use this link to cancel it:
253822 -
253823 - https://account.live.com/Email/Remove?otc=*Ctn33fDIDQBrWln2lzzrmo7ObcFXMU4KK8V59GRV9!aMbOtdyYBpqz816WXLKShgOFUDCy71bzyY844YPwGF9MA$&mn=rod%40welchco.com&ru=https://login.live.com/login.srf%3fbk%3d1370628289%26ru%3dhttps%253a%252f%252flogin.live.com%252flogin.srf%253flc%253d1033%2526mkt%253dEN-US%26uiflavor%3dWeb%26mkt%3dEN-US%26lc%3d1033%26lic%3d1%26sutk%3d1370628961449&cxt=EV
253825 - ..
253826 - 6. Thanks,
253827 -
253828 - The Microsoft account team
253829 -
253830 -
253832 - ..
253833 - Validation Code Required for Customer Support Case 1207966235
253834 -
253835 - Jen wanted us to get a validation code in addition to paying for
253836 - customer support.
253838 - ..
253839 - She said to open reference in Microsoft's letter, and follow
253840 - instructions. This produced...
253844 - ..
253845 - Jen said Microsoft also needs a security code for customers to use the
253846 - new account. She provided guidance through sections in Microsoft
253847 - Account services, per above. ref SDS 0 648N Performed instructions,
253848 -
253849 -
253851 - ..
253852 - HP Drops Conference Call Will Follow Up on Results
253853 -
253854 - At this point, while Jen was off line doing administration, Sue said
253855 - it appears that it will take more time for Microsoft to complete
253856 - administration before customer support on installing Windows 7 can
253857 - commence.
253859 - ..
253860 - She proposed dropping off the conference call, and will call back
253861 - later in the afternoon to get progress on accomplishing a satisfactory
253862 - solution.
253864 - ..
253865 - Agreed to this.
253867 - ..
253868 - Sue dropped off from the call with Microsoft.
253869 -
253870 -
253872 - ..
2539 -
2540 -
2541 - 1130
2542 -
254201 - Account Security Code Issued for Customer Support Case 1207966235
254202 -
254203 - Received another letter from Microsoft saying...
254204 -
254205 - 1. Subject: Microsoft account security code
254206 - Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2013 11:29:45 -0700
254210 - ..
254211 - 2. Hi,
254213 - ..
254214 - 3. Thanks for helping us verify your Microsoft account
254215 - (rod@welchco.com)!
254217 - ..
254218 - 4. Here is your code: 3700076
254220 - ..
254221 - 5. If you didn't request this code, we recommend that you go to
254222 -
254223 - https://account.live.com
254224 -
254225 - and change your password.
254227 - ..
254228 - 6. Thanks,
254229 - The Microsoft account team
254231 - ..
254232 - Jen asked for security code in the Microsoft letter, so gave her...
254234 - ..
254235 - Security code.................... 3700076
254237 - ..
254238 - Security question................ Grandfather - farmer
254239 -
254241 - ..
2543 -
2544 -
2545 - 1138
2546 -
254601 - Microsoft Notice Payment Received for Customer Support Account
254602 -
254603 - Received another letter from Micrsoft saying...
254604 -
254605 - 1. Subject: Microsoft Purchase Confirmation
254606 - Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2013 11:38:14 -0700
254613 - ..
254614 - 2. This mail is a confirmation that you have purchased the
254615 - following items from Microsoft:
254616 -
254617 - 3. *Purchase Date *
254618 - Friday, June 07, 2013
254620 - ..
254621 - 4. Total before Tax: $149.00
254622 - Tax: $0.00
254624 - ..
254625 - 5. Subtotal of Items: $149.00
254626 - -----
254627 - *Total for this order: *$149.00
254628 - Estimated charge date: Friday, June 07, 2013
254630 - ..
254631 - This confirms purchase of support services for 1 year, per above.
254632 - ref SDS 0 AY5M
254634 - ..
254635 - Microsoft letter continues...
254636 -
254637 - 6. Item(s) *
254638 - Premium Software Support Plan
254639 - - Premium Software Support Plan
254640 - Price: $149.00
254641 - Quantity: 1
254643 - ..
254644 - 7. You will be billed by your following payment method:
254645 - Credit Card: VISA
254646 - Last four digits: ****0099
254647 -
254649 - ..
254650 - 8. For information about your account, go to
254651 -
254652 - https://commerce.microsoft.com,
254653 -
254654 - 9. ...and select one of the following options:
254655 -
254656 - 1. To update payment information, select 'payment options',
254657 - click he payment option name, then click 'edit'.
254659 - ..
254660 - 2. For information about canceling a service, select
254661 - 'subscriptions', click the service name, then click 'manage'
254662 - and in the popup click 'Cancel subscription'.
254664 - ..
254665 - 3. To view a billing statement for a payment method, select
254666 - 'payment options', click the payment option name, then click
254667 - 'view transactions'.
254669 - ..
254670 - 4. To review the agreement that you accepted when purchasing a
254671 - service, select 'subscriptions', click the service name and
254672 - then click 'View service agreement'.
254674 - ..
254675 - 5. For help with your account, select 'help', click 'Getting help'
254676 - and then click 'Contact Customer Support'.
254678 - ..
254679 - 10. Thank you for using Microsoft Billing Services.
254681 - ..
254682 - 11. Microsoft Answer Desk
254684 - ..
254685 - 12. Note: Please do not respond to this message.
254686 -
254687 - To receive notifications at a different e-mail address, sign in
254688 - to your account at
254689 -
254690 - https://billing.microsoft.com,
254692 - ..
254693 - select 'Go to personal information', then click 'Edit personal
254694 - information', change the 'Contact e-mail', and click 'Save'.
254695 - For more information on online safety visit
254696 -
254697 - http://www.microsoft.com/phishing
254699 - ..
254700 - If you?d like to contact us for any reason,
254701 - visit any Microsoft Store, online
254702 -
254703 - http://answerdesk.microsoftstore.com,
254704 -
254705 - 13. ...or call us at 1-800-Microsoft and chat with any Answer Tech.
254706 - They?ll be happy to help you. Microsoft respects your privacy,
254707 - to learn more, please read our online privacy statement at
254708 -
254709 - http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=74170
254711 - ..
254712 - Microsoft
254713 - Corporation One Microsoft Way Redmond, WA 98052
254714 - Form: 78
254715 -
254717 - ..
2548 -
2549 -
2550 - 1158
2551 -
255101 - Scope Microsoft Customer Support for 1 Year
255102 - Microsoft 4th Letter on Case 1207966235 and Scope Customer Support
255103 -
255104 - Jen said she sent another letter to identify this service call.
255105 -
255106 - Received another letter from Micrsoft saying...
255107 -
255108 - 1. Subject: SRX1207966235ID - Premium Software Support Plan
255109 - Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2013 18:57:27 +0000
255119 - ..
255120 - 2. Thanks for visiting Answer Desk. We hope you had a great
255121 - experience.
255123 - ..
255124 - 3. Here's your session information:
255125 -
255126 - Service Request Number. It serves as your receipt: 1207966235
255128 - ..
255129 - Date of purchase: < June 7, 2013 >
255131 - ..
255132 - Service: Premium Software Support Plan
255134 - ..
255135 - 4. You will have unlimited support for one year for the following
255136 - services:
255137 -
255138 - 1. PC Tune Up
255139 -
255140 - 2. Virus Removal & Protection
255142 - ..
255143 - 3. Windows Premium Software Support
255145 - ..
255146 - 4. Office Premium Software Support
255148 - ..
255149 - 5. We'll be sending you a short survey about your session. We
255150 - appreciate you taking the time to share your thoughts. We'll
255151 - use your feedback to help improve our service.
255153 - ..
255154 - 6. Thanks for choosing Answer Desk. We're here when you need us.
255156 - ..
255157 - 7. The Microsoft Answer Desk Team
255159 - ..
255160 - Finally after an hour or so completed Microsoft adminsitration to
255161 - provide technical support.
255162 -
255163 -
255165 - ..
2552 -
2553 -
2554 - 1135
2555 -
255501 - Windows 7 Install Successful on C18 Before Microsoft Support Begins
255502 -
255503 - Started back to work fixing windows install on c18...
255504 -
255505 - Jen said to power up c18 and install the Windows 7 setup CD.
255507 - ..
255508 - Bootmgr is missing
255509 - Press Ctrl Alt Del to restart
255511 - ..
255512 - Powered up computer. Windows installation CD executed, and ran to
255513 - the setup screen.
255514 -
255515 - [...below turned out installation was defective,
255516 - ref SDS 0 3D3J, so tried installing Windows 7 again, and it
255517 - failed consistently the rest of the day. ref SDS 0 3R3N
255519 - ..
255520 - Clicked Next, and this time Windows installed correctly on c18.
255522 - ..
255523 - There is nothing in the record on why Windows failed continuously the
255524 - past 4 days, per above, ref SDS 0 RL3H, and suddenly ran successfully
255525 - this time.
255527 - ..
255528 - Microsoft provided no assistance on this issue that led to ordering
255529 - technical support, beginning with HP, ref SDS 0 LF4G, who in turn
255530 - setup conference call with Microsoft, above. ref SDS 0 RL4H
255532 - ..
255533 - For some unknown reason, setup passed EFI MBR conflict that prevented
255534 - installing Windows since error message reported on 130605 1444,
255535 - ref SDS 56 HU5G
255537 - ..
255538 - After Windows installation completed, changed from business to home
255539 - network on c18 and c21.
255541 - ..
255542 - However, could not get networking and Internet access.
255544 - ..
255545 - We checked Device Manager.
255547 - ..
255548 - There are about 60 yellow errors on components, indicating drivers
255549 - need to be installed stored on on c18 in...
255550 -
255551 - g: 00 c18 drivers
255552 -
255553 -
255554 -
255555 -
255556 -
255558 - ..
2556 -
2557 -
2558 - 1231
2559 -
255901 - Microsoft Escalates Case 1207966235 to Level 2 Support on Internet Access
255902 -
255903 - Jen could not figure out how to get networking and Internet
255904 - connection to configure.
255906 - ..
255907 - Jen escalated the case to level 2 support.
255909 - ..
255910 - Will get call from Microsoft OA 1430.
255911 -
255913 - ..
2560 -
2561 -
2562 - 1446
2563 -
256301 - Microsoft Letter Notice Case 1207966235 to Level 2 Support
256302 -
256303 - Received another letter from Microsoft saying...
256304 -
256305 - 1. Subject: SRX1207966235ID - Answer desk
256306 - Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2013 19:42:31 +0000
256314 - ..
256315 - 1. Thanks for visiting Answer Desk on <June 7, 2013. We hope you
256316 - had a great experience.
256318 - ..
256319 - 2. You had an issue reinstalling your windows because you got an
256320 - error about boot manager and you tried to reinstall windows
256321 - using the diskpart. So what we did is to run clean
256322 - installation and it was successfully installed.
256324 - ..
256325 - 3. But after installing your windows, your having an issue
256326 - connecting to the network and it can't find the driver. We
256327 - also check on the network driver from the device manager and it
256328 - got a yellow exclamation mark on it. We check on the change
256329 - adapter settings but its empty.
256331 - ..
256332 - Jen's explanation is incorrect in that nothing different was done that
256333 - resulted in successful installation, from prior failed attempts, per
256334 - above. ref SDS 0 PT4O
256335 -
256336 - [...below Microsoft will not write letter on findings from
256337 - failed attempts installing Windows 7 on HP h8 1280t
256338 - computer. ref SDS 0 K930
256340 - ..
256341 - Microsoft letter contnues...
256342 -
256343 - 4. I've already escalated this issue to our level 2 and they will
256344 - give you a call today at
256346 - ..
256347 - 5. Customer Time Zone: PST
256348 - Preferred Callback Date/Day: June 7, 2013
256349 - Preferred Callback Time: 2:30- 4:30 PM
256350 - Preferred Phone: 9258494745
256351 -
256352 -
256354 - ..
256355 - 6. Need more help? Call 1-800-MICROSOFT and have your session ID handy:
256356 - 1207966235.
256358 - ..
256359 - 7. We'll be sending you a short survey about your session. We
256360 - appreciate you taking the time to share your thoughts. We'll
256361 - use your feedback to help us improve our service.
256363 - ..
256364 - 8. Thanks for choosing Answer Desk. We're here when you need us.
256366 - ..
256367 - 9. The Microsoft Answer Desk Team
256368 -
256369 -
256370 -
256371 -
256373 - ..
2564 -
2565 -
2566 - 1302
2567 -
256701 - HP Requests Feedback Micosoft Findings Windows Installation C18
256702 -
256703 - Sue called back with HP.
256705 - ..
256706 - Advised Sue that problem was resolved without assistance from
256707 - Microsoft, in that problem seemed to resovle itself, per work with Jen
256708 - at Microsoft earlier at 1135. ref SDS 0 PT4O
256710 - ..
256711 - Sue asked if Windows 7 is up and running on c18?
256713 - ..
256714 - Explained there is a lot of work to do installing device drivers.
256716 - ..
256717 - Sue seemed very skeptical the problem has really been solved.
256719 - ..
256720 - She will call back on Monday, 130610 OA 1300, for progress report on
256721 - completing installation and setup of Windows 7 on c18, an HP h8 1280t
256722 - computer.
256723 -
256724 - [...below Microsoft will not write letter on findings from
256725 - failed attempts installing Windows 7 on HP h8 1280t
256726 - computer. ref SDS 0 K930
256727 -
256728 -
256729 -
256730 -
256731 -
256733 - ..
2568 -
2569 -
2570 - 1329
2571 -
257101 - Working on c18 again. New Windows 7 installation does not list drive
257102 - j in computer management.
257103 -
257104 -
257106 - ..
2572 -
2573 -
2574 - 1447
2575 -
257501 - Microsoft Level 2 Customer Support Install Windows 7 Ultimate on C18
257502 -
257503 - Received call from Ashish.
257505 - ..
257506 - Ashish was familiar with network problems, reported in earlier support
257507 - call with Jen, shown above. ref SDS 0 HT4G Ashish had further
257508 - reviewed Jen's letter submitted a few hours ago, shown above.
257509 - ref SDS 0 UT6I
257511 - ..
257512 - Initially, corected Microsoft's letter citing solution to "boot
257513 - manager" problem installing Windows, and as a result of running "clean
257514 - installation," per above. ref SDS 0 QU88 Explained there is no record
257515 - of doing anything differently to get an evident successful
257516 - installation, at least to the point of having a desktop. ref SDS 0
257517 - UJ68
257519 - ..
257520 - Ashish proposed fixing the network problem for access to the Internet,
257521 - cited in Microsoft's letter, per above, ref SDS 0 P55H, so that he can
257522 - use remote access to help complete Windows setup resolving driver
257523 - errors in Device Manager, and further configure c18 for customer use.
257525 - ..
257526 - Used c21 being used to support work on c18. Used Google search HP
257527 - Internet resources for drivers supporting h8 1280t desktop computer.
257528 - Found an HP address...
257529 -
257530 - http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/softwareCategory?os=4063&lc=en&cc=us&dlc=en&sw_lang=&product=5155363
257532 - ..
257533 - Downloaded network driver from HP, and copied from c21 to c18. Ran
257534 - the driver, but it did not resolve network problem.
257536 - ..
257537 - Some of these drivers may be helpful to update device drivers after
257538 - Windows is setup.
257539 -
257541 - ..
2576 -
2577 -
2578 - 1507
2579 -
257901 - Windows 7 Repair New Windows 7 Full Version Installation
257902 -
257903 - Ashish proposed running "repair" prodecure.
257905 - ..
257906 - Investigation indicated we have a CD for upgrading Windows 7.
257908 - ..
257909 - CD in the Windows 7 package says in part...
257910 -
257911 - ...including upgrading Windows 7
257913 - ..
257914 - Ashish feels this shows customer has been installing an upgrade
257915 - version of Windows 7, and not a full version.
257917 - ..
257918 - Procurement shows purchased Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit full version on
257919 - 120416 0653, ref SDS 41 168R, and received a few days later on 120419
257920 - 1203. ref SDS 43 FS5H It was later installed on 120429 2236,
257921 - ref SDS 54 7T9I, and used for the past year until on 130509 began
257922 - having OS problems, and so decided to reinstall, reported on 130519
257923 - 1704. ref SDS 55 Y55H
257924 -
257925 -
257927 - ..
257928 - Microsoft Says Run Upgrade CD to Repair Windows 7 Ultimate OS
257929 -
257930 - Ashish proposed running Windows upgrade CD on installation just
257931 - completed, per above, ref SDS 0 PT4O, to see if this repairs some
257932 - files that are not working.
257933 -
257934 -
257935 -
257937 - ..
2580 -
2581 -
2582 - 1538
2583 -
258301 - Launched Windows CD from within new windows installation donw earlier
258302 - today, per above. ref SDS 0 UJ68
258304 - ..
258305 - Ashish advised that since this new "upgrade" installation will take
258306 - seveal hour, he will back in an hour or so to check on progress and
258307 - continue resolution of setup problems.
258308 -
258310 - ..
2584 -
2585 -
2586 - 1545
2587 -
258701 - Windows completed 1st 4 setup steps, and began the final installation
258702 - process...
258704 - ..
258705 - Transferring files, settings, and programs..
258706 -
258708 - ..
2588 -
2589 -
2590 - 1652
2591 -
259101 - Upgrade Failed Complete Running in New Wndows 7 Full Version Installation
259102 -
259103 - Windows upgrade installation seems stalled at the same position for
259104 - the past hour, about 66% complete transferring files, settings, and
259105 - programs, for the pa
259107 - ..
259108 - Might indicate corrupt upgrade code on the CD.
259110 - ..
259111 - Tried pointer; it is not responding - won't move on the screen.
259112 -
259114 - ..
2592 -
2593 -
2594 - 1710
2595 -
259501 - Shopped for Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit full version in case Ashish is
259502 - correct that CD we purchased and installed last year is somehow not
259503 - really a full version for clean install.
259505 - ..
259506 - Prices even on Amazon seem to vary considerably.
259507 -
259509 - ..
2596 -
2597 -
2598 - 1719
2599 -
259901 - Microsoft Called Back Notified Windows Repair Failed to Complete
259902 -
259903 - Ashish called back.
259904 -
259905 - He suggested unplugging the modem cable for the network.
259907 - ..
259908 - Did this.
259910 - ..
259911 - Ashish left the line for a few mintues to research the problem.
259912 -
259913 -
259915 - ..
2600 -
2601 -
2602 - 1730
2603 -
260301 - Hardware Conflict Considered Causing Persistent Windows Setup Failure
260302 - Microsoft Proposes Run Failing Upgrade Another Hour to Repair Windows 7 Full Version Installation
260303 -
260304 - Ashish back online..
260305 -
260306 - He feels there may be some hardware conflict that was not manifest
260307 - nor significant enough to prevent the system from running the past
260308 - year, but is stopping installation now.
260310 - ..
260311 - Ashish suggested letting the current "upgrade" operation continue for
260312 - another hour attempting to "repair" the successful installation
260313 - reported while talking with Jen, earlier today at 1135, per above.
260314 - ref SDS 0 PT4O Ashish feels this may succeed if allowed to run
260315 - for anothe hour.
260317 - ..
260318 - Ashish said if there is no progess after an hour or so, then do
260319 - another clean installation using the "custom" option, rather than
260320 - update, which has just failed, per above. ref SDS 0 TT9F
260322 - ..
260323 - Ashish will call back in an hour to get progress and offer further
260324 - assistance.
260325 -
260326 -
260328 - ..
2604 -
2605 -
2606 - 1650
260701 - ..
260702 - Upgrade Failed Started New Clean Install Windows 7 Full Version C18
260703 -
260704 - Started another attmept to install Windows 7 full version.
260706 - ..
260707 - Decided to just do format, since other steps should still be effective
260708 - from prior attempts, listed above. ref SDS 0 W45O
260710 - ..
260711 - After formatting, tried install, and this failed.
260712 -
260714 - ..
2608 -
2609 -
2610 - 1725
2611 -
261101 - Microsoft Proposes Run Custom Format Clean Install Windows 7 Full Version
261102 - Windows 7 Installation Fails Requires Solution EFI MBR Conflict
261103 - EFI MBR Conflict Requires Solution Windows 7 Installation Fails Persistently
261104 -
261105 - Ashish called back.
261106 -
261107 - Reported failed progress.
261109 - ..
261110 - Ashish proposed that instead of formatting with diskpart, use Custom
261111 - which has a format option.
261113 - ..
261114 - Ashish hung up to investigate.
261116 - ..
261117 - Shut down c18 and started again.
261119 - ..
261120 - This time executed format available in the installation "Custom"
261121 - option.
261123 - ..
261124 - The screen shows the same as on 130605 1444. ref SDS 56 V45J
261126 - ..
261127 - Got same error message as on 130605 1444. ref SDS 56 V46N
261129 - ..
261130 - Selected "Format" option, and got error message...
261131 -
261132 - Failed to format the selected partition. [Error:
261133 - 0x8004242d].
261135 - ..
261136 - Thus, even format fails until resolution of EFI MBR conflict.
261137 -
261139 - ..
2612 -
2613 -
2614 - 1947
2615 -
261501 - Trying another clean install configuring disk from beginning again,
261502 - instead of just formatting.
261503 -
261504 - diskpart
261505 - list disk
261506 - select disk 0
261507 - clean
261508 - convert mbr
261509 - create parition primary size=222000
261510 - assign letter=C
261511 - format fs=ntfs unit=4096
261512 - active......................boot partition
261513 - create parition primary
261514 - assign letter=D
261515 -
261517 - ..
2616 -
2617 -
2618 - 2002
2619 -
261901 - This failed again with same message consistently the past few days
261902 - reported on 130605 1444. ref SDS 56 V46N
261904 - ..
261905 - Indicates that installation earlier today was a fluke that cannot be
261906 - repeated with any known commands, per above. ref SDS 0 UJ6J
261907 -
261908 -
261910 - ..
2620 -
2621 -
2622 - 2021
2623 -
262301 - Ashish went offline to investigate.
262302 -
262304 - ..
2624 -
2625 -
2626 - 2023
2627 -
262701 - He feels the problem is that format has wiped out the MBR partition
262702 - assignment.
262704 - ..
262705 - We reviewed the record showing that the partition is configured for
262706 - MBR, per above. ref SDS 0 S26O The error message, which he wrote
262707 - down a few minutes ago says expressly...
262708 -
262709 - The selected disk has an MBR partition table.
262710 -
262711 - ...see the record on 130605 1444. ref SDS 56 J74H
262713 - ..
262714 - Ashish asked for size of disk 0?
262716 - ..
262717 - Advised..................... 256 GB.
262719 - ..
262720 - Ashish Said to shut down the disk.
262722 - ..
262723 - Restart, and tap F2
262725 - ..
262726 - This did nothing.
262728 - ..
262729 - Asked Ashish what he wants to accomplish by tapping F2 on startup?
262731 - ..
262732 - Ashish explained he wants to open the BIOS on c18.
262734 - ..
262735 - Explained BIOS on c18 is opened by tapping ESC.
262736 -
262738 - ..
262739 - Microsoft Proposes Modify BIOS to Boot from CD Avoid EFI MBR Conflict
262740 - Microsoft Cites BIOS Configuration Limitations HP Problem Solve C18 Setup
262741 -
262742 - We then opened the BIOS on c18.
262744 - ..
262745 - Ashish said his research at Microsoft says the "work around" solution
262746 - to the EFI system conflict with MBR partition table requires booting
262747 - from the CD drive. He wants to change the Boot Menu to launch from a
262748 - CD drive instead of the boot manager.
262750 - ..
262751 - Explained this was reported previously 2 days ago on 130605 1444.
262752 - ref SDS 56 014P
262754 - ..
262755 - Reviewed the record showing HP's boot menu enables moving an arrow to
262756 - select a CD boot device, but there is no way to save that
262757 - configuration, reported earlier this morning, per above. ref SDS 0
262758 - RL3H
262760 - ..
262761 - Also this morning Sujan at HP said the BIOS for h8 1280t computer
262762 - (c18) does not support booting from CD to avoid EFI system MBR
262763 - conflict. HP proposes customers install a recovery version of Windows
262764 - 7, per above. ref SDS 0 0254
262766 - ..
262767 - Ashish feels this is an HP problem.
262769 - ..
262770 - Asked Ashish to write a letter for response to Sue, the supervisor at
262771 - HP who coordinated Microsoft support this morning, per above.
262772 - ref SDS 0 RL4H She requested feedback on results from Microsoft
262773 - fixing this problem. ref SDS 0 3D3J
262774 -
262776 - ..
262777 - HP Requests Feedback Micosoft Findings Guide Resolution Setup Failure C18
262778 -
262779 - Explained we received a letter from Jen this morning reporting initial
262780 - success installing Windows 7, and that more was needed to install
262781 - device drivers, per above. ref SDS 0 UT6I This was reported to Sue at
262782 - HP. She requested feedback to complete record on subsequent findings
262783 - working with Microsoft to solve Windows 7 installation problems, per
262784 - above. ref SDS 0 I54F
262785 -
262786 -
262787 -
262789 - ..
2628 -
2629 -
2630 - 2044
2631 -
263101 - Ashish went off line to consult with a supervisor on sending a letter
263102 - on this support call.
263103 -
263104 -
263106 - ..
2632 -
2633 -
2634 - 2134
2635 -
263501 - Microsoft Refuses Feedback Findings HP Problem BIOS Setup Problem
263502 -
263503 - Ashish back online.
263504 -
263505 - Ashish has consulted with his boss and with the supervisor of the
263506 - department. They said Ashish cannot send a letter presenting results
263507 - of the work today, and that resolution of problem requires support
263508 - from HP, per above. ref SDS 0 3Y6F
263510 - ..
263511 - Ashish suggested the customer write a letter to HP presenting what
263512 - Microsoft reports today.
263514 - ..
263515 - Explained this is not good practice. It is like a referral doctor
263516 - telling a patient to write a letter presenting the doctor's findings
263517 - and recommendations for care to the referring doctor. Invariably the
263518 - referring doctor doubts the efficacy of patient reports without
263519 - supporting documentation from the expert doctor who consulted in the
263520 - case.
263522 - ..
263523 - Ashish explained it is easier to avoid submitting documentation and
263524 - to invest time fixing errors than to ensure accurate communications.
263526 - ..
263527 - Thanked Ashish for trying to solve this setup problem.
263529 - ..
263530 - Ashish said he wants to work on this further, despite saying it is an
263531 - HP problem. He will call on Monday, 130610 to ask about progress
263532 - following call from HP and further efforts to install Windows 7 on
263533 - c18.
263535 - ..
263536 - Thanked Ashish for assistance today.
263537 -
263538 -
263539 -
263541 - ..
2636 -
2637 -
2638 - 2212
2639 -
263901 - Microsoft Requests Feedback on Support Fix Windows 7 Installation Problem
263902 -
263903 - Received letter from Ashish at Microsoft saying...
263904 -
263905 - 1. Subject: SRX1207966235ID -
263906 - Date: Sat, 8 Jun 2013 04:47:22 +0000
263914 - ..
263915 - 2. This is Ashish Sondhi with Microsoft Windows Technical Support.
263917 - ..
263918 - 3. I am following up regarding your Windows service request
263919 - 1207966235. I attempt to reach you at the preferred callback
263920 - time that we've agreed upon. We have recorded your
263921 - availability as below:
263923 - ..
263924 - 4. Available Days: June 10, 2013
263925 - Preferred Times: 1430-1630 hrs; PST
263927 - ..
263928 - 5. My goal is to ensure that your experience with Microsoft
263929 - Windows Technical Support leaves you pleased with our products
263930 - and services.
263932 - ..
263933 - 6. If you have any feedback regarding Microsoft support, we would
263934 - be glad to hear from you. If you would feel more comfortable
263935 - speaking with someone else regarding my service, Ashwani
263936 - Saluja, my manager, would be very happy to hear your comments
263937 - and suggestions. You may reach my manager by sending an email
263938 - to v-2assa@mssupport.microsoft.com Thank you for contacting
263939 - Microsoft Windows Technical Support.
263941 - ..
263942 - 7. Sincerely,
263943 -
263945 - ..
263946 - Ashish Sondhi
263947 - Escalation Support Engineer
263948 - Email: v-2aso@mssupport.microsoft.com
263949 - Work Hours:
263950 - 0700 hrs to 2000 hrs PST (Mon-Fri)
263951 - Customer Service and Support
263952 - Voice Mail: 425-635-2997 Ext. 32826
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