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S U M M A R Y
DIARY: April 19, 2012 04:52 PM Thursday;
Rod Welch
C18 Windows 7 Ultimate setup.
1...Summary/Objective
2...Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit Setup on C18
........Windows 7 Bootable USB Installer
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C18 Serial 2MD20606BY Receive H8 1280t Wrong Computer Procurement Or
H8 1280t Introduction 120128 Ship Without Specified Components Proce
2504 -
2504 - ..
2505 - Summary/Objective
2506 -
250601 - Follow up ref SDS 41 0000. ref SDS 34 0000.
250602 -
250603 -
250604 -
250605 -
250606 -
250608 - ..
2507 -
2508 -
2509 - Progress
2510 -
251001 - Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit Setup on C18
251002 -
251003 - Follow up ref SDS 41 7T9I, ref SDS 34 7T9I.
251004 -
251005 - Background...
251006 -
251007 - 1. On 120320 received c18 from HP, ref SDS 33 7T9I, and determined
251008 - it meets objectives for high performance. ref SDS 33 V57F
251010 - ..
251011 - 2. On 120321 performed initial system organization. ref SDS 34
251012 - KB4H This showed requirement for another 256 GB SSD for
251013 - running the windows 7 32-bit and windows 7 64-bit on separate
251014 - physical drives. ref SDS 34 OL4F
251016 - ..
251017 - 3. On 120402 ordered Windows 7 Ultimate upgrade, ref SDS 36 EO6L,
251018 - and research on configuring Windows 7 Ultimate on assigned
251019 - partition and entering Administrator as primary user. 120402
251020 - 2338, ref SDS 36 RL5N
251022 - ..
251023 - 4. On 120411 Morris installed 2nd SSD Samsung model 830 256 GB in
251024 - c18. ref SDS 39 CI6F
251026 - ..
251027 - 5. On 120416 Microsoft case #1175180605, ref SDS 40 NB6F, and was
251028 - told to buy Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit full version for
251029 - installing to a specified partition other than c drive.
251030 - ref SDS 40 YE6O
251032 - ..
251033 - 6. On 120418 partitioned disks and assigned drive letters, with
251034 - plan to install w7 64-bit on i and 32-bit on j. ref SDS 41 Q55G
251036 - ..
251037 - 7. On 120419 received Windows 7 Ultimate full version with product
251038 - key. ref SDS 42 FS5H
251040 - ..
251041 - Windows 7 Ultimate full version installation started.
251043 - ..
251044 - Selected install Windows 7 64-bit on i drive which is configured on
251045 - the 3rd disk (disk 2).
251047 - ..
251048 - Error message.................
251049 -
251050 - Windows cannot be installed to this disk. The selected
251051 - disk has an MBR partition table. On EFI systems,
251052 - Windows can only be installed to the GPT disks.
251054 - ..
251055 - Research indicates MBR partition must be converted to GPT disk
251056 -
251057 - http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/26193-convert-mbr-disk-gpt-disk.html
251058 -
251059 - 1. MBR disks are supported (readable) by all Windows operating
251060 - systems.
251062 - ..
251063 - GPT disks are only supported (readable) by Windows server 2003
251064 - SP1 +, XP 64-bit, Vista, Windows 7, Windows Server 2008.
251066 - ..
251067 - 2. MBR disks use the standard BIOS partition table.
251068 -
251069 - GPT disks use extensible firmware interface (EFI).
251071 - ..
251072 - 3. MBR disks supports up to 2TB per single partition.
251073 -
251074 - GPT disks supports up to 256TB per single partition in
251075 - Windows.
251077 - ..
251078 - 4. MBR disks support up to 4 Primary partitions or 3 Primary
251079 - partitions and 1 Extended partition with up to 128 logical
251080 - volumes in the extended partition.
251082 - ..
251083 - GPT disks supports up to 128 Primary partitions.
251085 - ..
251086 - 5. You must be a administrator to do this in Windows.
251088 - ..
251089 - 6. If you disable the Disk Defragmenter service, then you will
251090 - get the error below when you try to do anything in Disk
251091 - Management. If you get this error, then make sure that the
251092 - Disk Defragmenter service is set to only Manual.
251094 - ..
251095 - 7. Disk Management - open
251096 -
251097 - a. Right click disk directory management
251098 -
251099 - b. Left click on "Manage."
251100 -
251101 - c. Storage - select Disk Management
251103 - ..
251104 - d. Right click on each partition in disk 2, and select "Delete
251105 - Volume" - remove all volumes until the entire disk is a
251106 - single volume.
251108 - ..
251109 - f. Right click on the disk (ex: Disk 1^]that you want to
251110 - convert to a GPT disk, and click on Convert to GPT Disk.
251111 - (See screenshot below)
251113 - ..
251114 - This step didn't work, so after setting disk 1 back to a single large
251115 - volume, used following steps at DOS...
251116 -
251117 - 8. Command Prompt
251118 -
251119 - 1. Open command prompt as Administrator.
251121 - ..
251122 - 2. C:>diskpart
251124 - ..
251125 - 3. C:>list disk
251126 -
251127 - In this case select disk 2, which is the Samsung model 830
251128 - 256 GB drive and was configured as partitions i and j,
251129 - reported yesterday on 120418 1745. ref SDS 41 D67M
251131 - ..
251132 - 4. C:>detail disk
251133 -
251134 - This will give you a list of all the volume numbers on the
251135 - selected disk number that you will need to delete in steps
251136 - 7 and 8 below.
251138 - ..
251139 - Since volumes were deleted with Disk Management, above,
251140 - ref SDS 0 1X5J, go to step 10.
251142 - ..
251143 - 5. C:>select disk 2
251145 - ..
251146 - 6. C:>convert gpt
251148 - ..
251149 - 7. C:>exit
251151 - ..
251152 - This worked.
251154 - ..
251155 - After setting disk 2 to GPT created again partitions and formatted
251156 - disks, as done yesterday on 120418 1745. ref SDS 41 D67M
251158 - ..
251159 - Launched Widows setup again...
251161 - ..
251162 - Error message.................
251163 -
251164 - Setup was unable to create a new system partition or
251165 - locate an existing system partition. See the setup log
251166 - files for more information.
251168 - ..
251169 - Why cannot Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit setup.exe create a new "system"
251170 - partition on the partition assigned for installing the operating
251171 - system?
251173 - ..
251174 - Where are the "setup log files?
251176 - ..
251177 - Research on the Internet indicated opening Event Log Viewer. Doing
251178 - this only shows files for the operating system being replaced.
251180 - ..
251181 - Found recommendation to enable Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit setup.exe to
251182 - create a new system partition on disk 2 by setting BIOS to use disk 2
251183 - for the boot sequence.
251185 - ..
251186 - After making this change to BIOS ran setup.exe again and got...
251188 - ..
251189 - Error message.................
251190 -
251191 - Windows cannot be installed to GPT disk.
251193 - ..
251194 - Changed BIOS back to boot on disk 0, and applied steps above to change
251195 - GPT disk back to MBR, per above. ref SDS 0 V16J
251196 -
251197 - C:>convert mbr
251199 - ..
251200 - Reset disk size and format per above.
251202 - ..
251203 - This might be an error.
251205 - ..
251206 - Possibly, should setup Windows 7 64-bit first with disk 2 as a single
251207 - volume, and then after it is installed, create another partition for
251208 - installing windows 7 32-bit.
251210 - ..
251211 - Another possibility is to eliminate the volume and let Windows 7
251212 - Ultimate setup format the drive and transfer the system.
251214 - ..
251215 - Setup advanced with this work sequence.
251217 - ..
251218 - Type User name.....
251220 - ..
251221 - The only user account we want is administrator, as explained in the
251222 - record on 120402 2338. ref SDS 36 RL5N
251224 - ..
251225 - Enter product key listed in the record receiving Windows 7 Ultimate
251226 - this morning on 120419 1203. ref SDS 42 Y671
251228 - ..
251229 - Once this was done, and Windows 7 64-bit was installed, Disk
251230 - Management shows in "Virtual Disk Service" that disk 1, which is the
251231 - conventional magentic disk was assigned to drive d, everything was
251232 - messed up.
251234 - ..
251235 - After this could not get Windows to install on disks that are MBR;
251236 - getting error message to change again to GPT, even though previously
251237 - that failed, per above. ref SDS 0 ZX9I
251239 - ..
251240 - Suggestion on Internet...
251241 -
251242 - http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_7-windows_install/windows-7-the-selected-disk-has-an-mbr-partition/5aee7be1-3038-4290-a283-75806dc1be1f
251243 -
251244 - Try forcing the computer to boot the Windows 7 setup disc in
251245 - BIOS mode, versus EFI mode. Just hit ESC when booting up to
251246 - take you into the EFI boot manager and select the DVD-DRIVE,
251247 - versus the ACPI(....) string.
251249 - ..
251250 - This seems to work, though it is tricky in the BIOS to determine
251251 - which option is for booting with the CD, since there are two choices.
251253 - ..
251254 - However after getting windows setup to run, problem recurs saying...
251255 -
251256 - Windows cannot be installed to this disk. The selected disk
251257 - has an MBR partition table. On EFI systems, Windows can only
251258 - installed to GPT disks.
251260 - ..
251261 - Another source says...
251262 -
251263 - http://www.overclock.net/t/1156654/seans-windows-7-install-optimization-guide-for-ssds-hdds
251264 -
251265 - SSDs do NOT require the confusing and intense setup that a lot
251266 - of people seem to suggest. The current day SSDs are much more
251267 - reliable and literally all that is necessary is to change the
251268 - SATA mode to AHCI in the BIOS/UEFI, install, and you are good
251269 - to go. I highly recommend reinstalling your OS instead of
251270 - migrating/mirroring it from a HDD when you get a SSD. It may
251271 - take longer, but it is worth it in the end. Also, if you want
251272 - to learn more about SSDs or see my recommended SSDs then click
251273 - here:
251274 -
251275 - Sean's SSD Buyers Guide & Information Thread
251276 -
251277 - http://www.overclock.net/t/1179518/seans-ssd-buyers-guide-information-thread
251279 - ..
251280 - SSD write performance may degrade when the drive is close to
251281 - being filled or if you are constantly writing and erasing
251282 - data to the drive without ample time for GC to take effect.
251283 - The thing is that SSDs need some "clean" pages when writing
251284 - data. Otherwise, they have to do a read-modify-write of a
251285 - "dirty" block instead of just a write to a "clean" page.
251286 - This process is basically garbage collection at run time and
251287 - impacts your real time usage rather than preemptive garbage
251288 - collection. So if you have little free space left and then
251289 - pound the SSD with a bunch of random writes and do not allow
251290 - the SSD to clean itself, the can be a noticeable performance
251291 - degradation.
251293 - ..
251294 - Windows 7 Bootable USB Installer
251295 -
251296 -
251297 -
251298 - BIOS HP setup utility shows...
251300 - ..
251301 - Storage
251302 - Storage Options
251303 - Sata Emulation......... AHCI
251305 - ..
251306 - This seems to comply with recommendation, per above. ref SDS 0 YM7O
251307 -
251309 - ..
251310 - Next need to partition the disks.
251312 - ..
251313 - Windows setup does not enable creating extended partitions on SSD.
251315 - ..
251316 - Research on Internet
251318 - ..
251319 - Some authorities seem to say that extended partitions are no longer
251320 - needed.
251322 - ..
251323 - Found method to setup disk partitions and volumes....
251324 -
251325 - 1. DOS commands for diskpart are explained at...
251326 -
251327 - http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc766465(v=ws.10).aspx
251329 - ..
251330 - 2. Access DOS prompt during Windows 7 setup with Shift F10 at
251331 - first screen showing language, time and keyboard options.
251332 -
251333 - http://www.mydigitallife.info/hack-to-remove-100-mb-system-reserved-partition-when-installing-windows-7/
251334 -
251335 - 1. Once Windows 7 Setup is loaded, press Shift + F10 keys at
251336 - the first setup screen (which allows selection of
251337 - language, keyboard and locale). A Command Prompt window
251338 - will be opened.
251340 - ..
251341 - 2. Run Diskpart, the built-in disk partitioning tool of
251342 - Windows 7 with the following command:
251344 - ..
251345 - SSD setup does not require align parameter with create
251346 - partition command, because Windows 7 automatically
251347 - performs alignment on SSD storage devices.
251348 -
251349 - If you install Windows7 on a brand new SSD, you need
251350 - not make any special arrangements because the Windows7
251351 - installer will do the alignment for you.
251352 -
251353 - http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/113967-ssd-alignment.html
251355 - ..
251356 - diskpart
251357 - list disk
251358 - select disk 0
251359 - clean
251360 - convert basic
251361 - create parition primary size=180000
251362 - assign letter=C
251363 - format fs=ntfs unit=4096
251364 -
251365 - create partition extended
251366 -
251367 -
251368 -
251369 - create parition primary size=8000
251370 - assign letter=D
251371 - create parition primary size=5000
251372 - assign letter=E
251373 - create parition primary size=10000
251374 - assign letter=F
251375 - create parition primary size=5000
251376 - assign letter=G
251377 - create parition primary
251378 - assign letter=H
251379 -
251380 - select partition 1
251381 - assign letter=C
251382 - format fs=ntfs unit=4096
251383 -
251384 - select partition 2
251385 - assign letter=D
251386 - format fs=ntfs unit=512
251387 -
251388 - select partition 3
251389 - assign letter=E
251390 - format fs=ntfs unit=512
251391 -
251392 - select partition 4
251393 - assign letter=F
251394 - format fs=ntfs unit=512
251395 -
251396 - select partition 5
251397 - assign letter=G
251398 - format fs=ntfs unit=512
251399 -
251400 - select partition 6
251401 - assign letter=H
251402 - format fs=ntfs unit=512
251404 - ..
251405 - After going through all this, Windows 7 installed and completely
251406 - changed all disk configuration.
251408 - ..
251409 - As a result, ran diskpart on another install attempt, and only
251410 - created c on disk 0, and i on disk 2, and then installed the os to i
251411 - on disk 2.
251413 - ..
251414 - Problems...........
251415 -
251416 - 1. Cannot reinstall the OS due to conflict between MBR and
251417 - GPT protocols, which has shifted back and forth numerous
251418 - times.
251419 -
251420 - 2. Administrator should be only user identified to the
251421 - system; we have two.
251423 - ..
251424 - 3. Network HP Wireless NIC 802.11b/g/n listed in Packing
251425 - received on 120320 1643. ref SDS 33 XM46 is not configured,
251426 - so there is no access to the router and so no access to
251427 - Internet for downloading drivers. For some reason the
251428 - device is not listed in the Device Manager.
251430 - ..
251431 - 4. VGA video graphics driver is configured, instead of setting
251432 - up the AMD Radeon HD 7950 adapter installed in c18,
251433 - reported on 120314 0832. ref SDS 30 KK6M
251435 - ..
251436 - 5. Would it help to install w7 32-bit first? Authorities
251437 - seem to say it doesn't matter.
251438 -
251439 - [On 120420 1707 called Microsoft for assistance setting
251440 - up Windows 7 on c18, ref SDS 43 LV9H, as planned in the
251441 - prior call with Eric at Microsoft on 120416 0653.
251442 - ref SDS 40 NZ77; slow progress, so Microsoft agent
251443 - escalated the problem for call back from Microsoft
251444 - planned 120421. ref SDS 43 TY7L
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