THE WELCH COMPANY
440 Davis Court #1602
San Francisco, CA 94111-2496
415 781 5700
rod@welchco.com
S U M M A R Y
DIARY: April 16, 2012 03:29 PM Monday;
Rod Welch
Television LG 37" receive from Amazon configure c18.
1...Summary/Objective
2...LG 37LK450 60 Hz Television Fails Display Text Well Computer Monitor
3...Scaling Fix Black Bar Problem Overscanning Adjustment
4...Color Management Change from Vizio 32 to LG 37" HDTV
5...Mouse Erratic Fail Response Declines
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0403 -
0403 - ..
0404 - Summary/Objective
0405 -
040501 - Follow up ref SDS 7 0000, ref SDS 6 0000.
040502 -
040503 - Testing shows LG 37LK450 37-Inch 1080p 60 Hz LCD HDTV is not effective
040504 - for a computer monitor to run SDS. ref SDS 0 5K4G
040505 -
040506 -
040507 -
040508 -
040509 -
040511 - ..
0406 -
0407 -
0408 - Progress
0409 -
040901 - On 120409 1640 notice from Amazon that order 104-5460933-1933042 LG
040902 - 37" television has shipped with estimated delivery on 120417.
040903 - ref SDS 10 KH67 This unit was purchased on On 120406 after notice that
040904 - first order was canceled by Amazon due to out of stock. ref SDS 8
040905 - KH67
040907 - ..
040908 - This afternoon UPS delivered...
040909 -
040910 - Order number 104-5460933-1933042.......... 120406 1038, ref SDS 8 KH67
040912 - ..
040913 - LG 37LK450 37-Inch 1080p 60 Hz LCD HDTV
040914 -
040915 - http://www.amazon.com/LG-37LK450-37-Inch-1080p-HDTV/dp/B004OOS34S/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1333739208&sr=8-2
040916 -
040917 - [On 120418 1038 notified Amazon execute RMA transaction.
040918 - ref SDS 12 U56J
040919 -
040921 - ..
0410 -
0411 -
0412 - 1630
0413 -
041301 - Kathy helped remove television from the box and install the base.
041302 -
041303 - Even though the set is not configured for television, and there is no
041304 - television cable connection, used the remote control to set input port
041305 - to HDMI 1, and am now using the new monitor with c17.
041306 -
041307 - [On 120418 1038 disassembled LG 37" HDTV and restored to
041308 - original packaging for shipment back to Amazon. ref SDS 12
041309 - G44H
041311 - ..
041312 - Remote control problems occurred again with the LG 37LK450 37" 1080p
041313 - 60 Hz LCD HDTV responding to the Comcast remote programmed to control
041314 - the Vizio xvt3d424sv television, setup by Shaw with a special code on
041315 - 120412 1621. ref SDS 11 0G6J This conflicts with Vizio guidance that
041316 - getting a television not manufactured by Vizio avoids remote control
041317 - conflicts, reported on 120403 1023, ref SDS 6 6M6N, and again talking
041318 - to Will at Vizio on 120409 1043. ref SDS 9 MV9M
041320 - ..
041321 - Task bar is off screen. This is the reverse of the "black bar"
041322 - problem caused by underscanning, originally reported on
041323 -
041324 -
041326 - ..
041327 - LG 37LK450 60 Hz Television Fails Display Text Well Computer Monitor
041328 -
041329 - The bigger problem is that SDS font and colors do not display well,
041330 - and are essentially unreadable for extended working hours, reported
041331 - previously for the Vizio xvt3d424sv television received on 120206
041332 - 0845, ref SDS 3 TE8L, and setup a few days later after a problem with
041333 - the remote control was resolved. At that time, found that SDS diary
041334 - screen is faded and characters are fuzzy and blurry, compared to using
041335 - SDS on the older Vizio VA32M HDTV, reported on 120209 1430.
041336 - ref SDS 4 PZ3L
041337 -
041338 - [On 120418 1038 notified Amazon execute RMA transaction.
041339 - ref SDS 12 U56J
041341 - ..
041342 - [On 120612 1538 receive Vizio M320SL 32-Inch 120 Hz for
041343 - order 102-2616339-1750600, ref SDS 13 MN4O, displays text
041344 - worse than Vizio xvt3d424sv HDTV, and worse than LG 37" 60
041345 - Hz HDTV. ref SDS 13 NE3M
041347 - ..
041348 - [On 120706 1045 LG 47LG60 120 Hz used at Kathy's home in
041349 - Sacramento provides excellent display of SDS text and
041350 - colors and also Windows 7 desktop and menus compared to
041351 - other displays todate. ref SDS 14 607H
041353 - ..
041354 - This experience today conflicts with product review reporting that the
041355 - LG 37LK450 37-Inch 1080p 60 Hz LCD HDTV makes a good computer monitor
041356 - shown in research on 120406 1038. ref SDS 8 OE3J
041358 - ..
041359 - Tried to salvage the order using LG television setup features.
041361 - ..
041362 - The remote control has a button for...
041363 -
041364 - Menu
041366 - ..
041367 - This opens a circular menu that has a "Picture" option accessed with
041368 - the right arrow key on the keypad to scroll the circle so the Picture
041369 - option is current, and pressing Enter.
041371 - ..
041372 - There are 6 - 8 picture modes.
041374 - ..
041375 - Several seemed to make some improvement, but none enough to justify
041376 - keeping the LG television.
041377 -
041378 -
041380 - ..
0414 -
0415 -
0416 - 1642
0417 -
041701 - Called LG...
041702 -
041703 - 800-243-0000
041705 - ..
041706 - Talked to Octavio
041708 - ..
041709 - He proposed using video mode 760 x 320 instead of 1080p. Explained
041710 - this is an hdtv that uses HDMI protol.
041712 - ..
041713 - Octavio put the call on hold to investigate.
041715 - ..
041716 - After holding for about 15 mintues, the line failed and the call was
041717 - disonnected.
041719 - ..
041720 - While holding for help on improving the screen display for SDS, per
041721 - above, ref SDS 0 5K4G, research found...
041722 -
041723 -
041724 -
041726 - ..
041727 - Scaling Fix Black Bar Problem Overscanning Adjustment
041728 -
041729 - Black bar problem was solved previously for c17 reported 101115.
041730 - ref SDS 1 Y94N
041732 - ..
041733 - This problem is occurring configuring the new LG 37 with c17 that has
041734 - graphics circuit board...
041735 -
041736 - ATI Radion HD 5570
041738 - ..
041739 - The problem can be solved on c17 32-bit mode opening...
041740 -
041741 - Radeon Graphics
041742 - Catalyst Control Center
041743 - Desktops and Displays
041744 - My Digital Flat Panels
041745 - Scaling Options digital Flat Panel
041746 -
041748 - ..
041749 - Alternate Windows 7 menu path to fix black bar problem by applying
041750 - scaling options to adjust overscanning.
041751 -
041752 - Control Panel
041753 - Appearance and Personalization
041754 - Display\Screen Resolution
041755 - Advanced Settings
041757 - ..
041758 - Select...
041759 -
041760 - Catalyst Control Center
041761 - Desktop and Displays
041762 - My Digital Flat Panels
041763 - Scaling Options (Digital Flat Panel)
041765 - ..
041766 - This section has a feature for setting scaling options for underscan
041767 - and overscan.
041769 - ..
041770 - By moving the scaling bar left from Overscan toward Underscan, the
041771 - taskbar is moved up to fully display on the computer screen.
041773 - ..
041774 - This solved the display problem for c17 Windows 7 32-bit mode.
041776 - ..
041777 - Persistent and residual problem is that setting overscannin and
041778 - underscanning for one display requires changing settings for another
041779 - display.
041781 - ..
041782 - Want to switch television computer monitor displays at will without
041783 - wasting time resetting configuration.
041785 - ..
041786 - Switched c17 with new LG 37" HDTV and in Windows 7 64-bit mode.
041788 - ..
041789 - Same problem occurred with overscanning.
041791 - ..
041792 - Could not find a scaling options menu in 64-bit mode.
041794 - ..
041795 - On the Internet took quite awhile, but finally found and downloaded
041796 - Windows 7 64-bit device driver for video graphics circuit board....
041797 -
041798 - ATI Radion HD 5570
041800 - ..
041801 - This is saved at...
041802 -
041803 - G:\00\c17_setup\Radeon HD5570\12-3_vista_wn7_64_dd_ccc.exe 165,450 KB
041805 - ..
041806 - Also stored in...
041807 -
041808 - G:\00\Radeon HD5570\12-3_vista_wn7_64_dd_ccc.exe 165,450 KB
041810 - ..
041811 - After installing this new driver on c17, installation processing
041812 - creates the following directories...
041813 -
041814 -
041815 - c17 L:\AMD\Support\12-3_vista_wn7_64_dd_ccc\
041816 -
041817 - c17 L:\Program Files\ATI\CIM\
041818 -
041819 - c17 L:\Program Files\ATI Technologies\
041821 - ..
041822 - This is a significantly different configuration from the file
041823 - structure for Windows 7 32-bit.
041825 - ..
041826 - After installing the updated video graphics device driver, was able to
041827 - locate Catalyst Control Center for windows 7 64-bit...
041828 -
041829 - Generic PnP Monitor and ATI Radeon HD 5570 Properties
041831 - ..
041832 - This has 5 tab submenues...
041833 -
041834 - Color Management
041835 - Adapter
041836 - Monitor
041837 - Troubleshoot
041838 - Catalyst Control Center
041839 -
041840 -
041842 - ..
041843 - Color Management Change from Vizio 32 to LG 37" HDTV
041844 -
041845 - Screen colors was another big problem with the new "improved" high
041846 - priced 37" HDTV used for a computer monitor with HDMI.
041847 -
041848 - Do not have bright crisp colors for the computer screen with the new
041849 - LG 37" television that are supported by the older model Vizio 32"
041850 - VA32M HDTV.
041852 - ..
041853 - Colors are controlled on c17 with...
041854 -
041855 - Catalyst Control Center
041857 - ..
041858 - This is accessed by...
041859 -
041860 - Control Panel
041861 - Appearance and Personalization
041862 - Display\Screen Resolution
041863 - Advanced Settings
041865 - ..
041866 - The "Advanced Settings" directory is opened by clicking this option
041867 - in the lower right side of the "Screen Resolution" directory, and
041868 - opens a different menu...
041869 -
041870 -
041872 - ..
041873 - Selecting the last one opens choices...
041874 -
041875 - Catalyst Control Center
041876 - Desktop and Displays
041877 - Desktop Management
041878 - Desktop Color
041880 - ..
041881 - This location has 3 color adjustments for c17 64-bit mode running the
041882 - older Vizio VA32M HDTV...
041883 -
041884 - Gamma
041885 -
041886 - 0.5..................... 3.5
041888 - ..
041889 - Brightness
041890 -
041891 - -100.................... 100
041893 - ..
041894 - Contrast
041895 -
041896 - 0....................... 200
041898 - ..
041899 - Using the mouse to slide the control left or right changes the
041900 - appearance of everything displayed on the desktop.
041902 - ..
041903 - On c17 for the old Vizio VA32M displa]^ the system defaults work best.
041905 - ..
041906 - For the new LG 37" television received today configured with both the
041907 - c17 and the new computer c18, these color controls can be adjusted to
041908 - improve appearance of SDS, but not enough to make it useful for a
041909 - working tool 24/7.
041911 - ..
041912 - Try smaller font...
041914 - ..
041915 - Line 280, ref OF 1 DZ8N, -entry 1530 in \01\33\000008
041916 -
041917 - -entry 1530
041918 - font "Lucida ConsoleP" 17
041919 - font "Lucida ConsoleP" 18
041920 -
041921 - No line draw
041922 - font "Terminal" 12
041923 - No line draw
041924 - font "Consolas" 20
041925 - No line draw
041926 - font "Courier" 20
041928 - ..
041929 -
041930 - -exit
041931 -
041932 - Changing to a smaller font on a larger screen did not solve
041933 - problem of faded fuzzy, blurry characters.
041934 -
041935 -
041937 - ..
041938 - Mouse Erratic Fail Response Declines
041939 -
041940 - Seems that after adjusting overscaling on c18, the mouse has become
041941 - less responsive. Performance has declined to the point of failure.
041942 -
041943 - Thought the problem might be the battery, even though of the two
041944 - wireless pointers, this one has much less use than the other, which
041945 - has been used day and night for 2 months without losing charge.
041947 - ..
041948 - Tried the other mouse, and it too showed erratic, non-responsive
041949 - performance.
041951 - ..
041952 - Finally, tried the original wireless mouse mostly used with c16, and
041953 - so also not used very much the past year. However, this mouse was
041954 - also erratic to the total failure.
041956 - ..
041957 - Later tried resetting overscanning back so the task bar is visible on
041958 - the new LG, per above. ref SDS 0 4I6O
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