THE WELCH COMPANY
440 Davis Court #1602
San Francisco, CA 94111-2496
415 781 5700
rod@welchco.com
S U M M A R Y
DIARY: July 15, 2009 04:51 PM Wednesday;
Rod Welch
C16 complete drivers XP 32-bit and W7 on HDX 18t computer at Fry's.
1...Summary/Objective
2...XP Device Drivers for Elitebook 8730w Failed on HDX 18t for XP
3...Device Drivers Proposed HP Technical Support Failed on HDX 18t for XP
4...HP Technical Support Recommendation Devide Drivers Filed XP on HDX 18t
5...C16 Missing 2 Minor Device Drivers
6...64-bit Computer HP HDX 18t Runs Windows XP 32-bit OS Device Drivers
7...Ryan Configures XP 32-bit Device Drivers on HDX 18t 64-bit Computer
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CONTACTS
0201 - Fry's Electronics Store #24
020101 - Mr. Ryan Duldulao
020102 - Service Technician
020104 - Service Department
SUBJECTS
HP HDX 18t 64-bit Computer Configured Fry's Ryan Service Technician
1403 -
1403 - ..
1404 - Summary/Objective
1405 -
140501 - Follow up ref SDS 33 0000. ref SDS 31 0000.
140502 -
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140504 -
140505 -
140506 -
140508 - ..
1406 -
1407 -
1408 - Background
1409 -
140901 - On 090708 HP disclosed they have a video showing how to replace Vista
140902 - by installing Windows XP on the HDX 18t 64-bit computer. ref SDS 18
140903 - 7S8M The video does not explain how to avoid the blue screen error
140904 - that has been stopping installation of XP on the HDX 18t 64-bit
140905 - computer. ref SDS 18 OE4M
140907 - ..
140908 - On 090708 HP provides website for device drivers to run XP 32-bit on
140909 - HDX 18t, however, this location has only 2 of about 20 - 30 device
140910 - drivers needed. ref SDS 18 VO90
140912 - ..
140913 - On 090709 2020 Ryan explained Fry's has continuing problems installing
140914 - XP to replace Vista, ref SDS 20 TF9O, contrary to representations by
140915 - HP sales reps on 090623, and on 090624 0858. ref SDS, ref SDS 21 Y16L,
140916 - 12 R85L
140918 - ..
140919 - On 090709 1500 at 2020 HP disclosed they sell Elitebook 8730w which
140920 - similar to HDX 18t, and is delivered to the customer with Windows XP
140921 - installed, therefore device drivers should be mostly the same.
140922 - ref SDS 20 LO8H
140924 - ..
140925 - On 090710 1123 called Microsoft, ref SDS 22 R18A, and arranged for
140926 - technical support this afternoon at Fry's to configure c16 installing
140927 - Microsoft Windows XP Pro SP2 as primary operatig system (OS) for c16.
140928 - ref SDS 22 3S4P
140930 - ..
140931 - On 090710 1720 visited Fry's and called Microsoft Technical Support,
140932 - ref SDS 23 R44M, and Amol explained to Ryan procedures using an
140933 - external floppy disk drive to call Intel drivers for the SATA hard
140934 - drive, ref SDS 23 R54P, and this turned out to be effective for
140935 - installing Windows XP SP2 32-bit operating system to replace Microsoft
140936 - Vista 64-bit OS. ref SDS 23 SH4K
140938 - ..
140939 - On 090710 2218 received letter from Microsoft reporting charges of $79
140940 - for assistance configuring c16. ref SDS 24 JW66
140942 - ..
140943 - On 090711 1500 tried istalling W7, and found it can be specified to
140944 - install on any drive, but after installion, and when the computer
140945 - powers up, W7 is shown as being only on the c drive,and any data on c
140946 - was moved to d:, d moved to e, etc., and in this case of W7 code
140947 - installed on j, the j drive is completely invisible. ref SDS 26 WM77
140948 - Ryan thought Vista would install correctly, but he called later and
140949 - reported the same problem. ref SDS 26 PN8V
140951 - ..
140952 - On 090712 0800 called Microsoft Technical Support says Vista and W7
140953 - designed to install only on c drive, ref SDS 27 IG6O, unless customers
140954 - pay Microsoft more money, about $500 for help today, and $260 if the
140955 - work is done during regular business hours, beginning tomorrow.
140956 - ref SDS 27 PQ9V
140958 - ..
140959 - On 090712 1517 Ryan reported success configuring Windows XP and
140960 - Windows 7 according to requirements, ref SDS 28 VT9J; having problems
140961 - finding drivers for XP that will run the HDX 18t. ref SDS 28 GS3K
140962 - Developed work plan to complete configuration. ref SDS 28 GS3Y
140964 - ..
140965 - On 090712 1517 difficulty finding device drivers for running Windows
140966 - XP 32-bit on HDX 18t because HP does not provide drivers. ref SDS 28
140967 - GS3K
140969 - ..
140970 - On 090713 0043 submitted letter commending Microsoft and HP Technical
140971 - Support for assistance configuring HP HDX 18t with Windows XP 32-bit
140972 - operating system (OS) to replace Vista 64-bit and for the purpose of
140973 - running line-of-business software, including the Schedule Diary System
140974 - (SDS). ref SDS 29 R18A
140976 - ..
140977 - On 090713 0043 submitted letter commending Microsoft and HP Technical
140978 - Support, ref SDS 29 MR6M, for assistance configuring HP HDX 18t with
140979 - Windows XP 32-bit operating system (OS) to replace Vista 64-bit, and
140980 - requested device drivers from HP. ref SDS 29 RS6U
140982 - ..
140983 - On 090713 1409 called HP Technical Support for assistance getting
140984 - drivers for Windows XP on the HP HDX 18t, ref SDS 31 R18A; was told to
140985 - call back. ref SDS 31 029C
140987 - ..
140988 - On 090713 1532 found drivers for XP on the Elitebook 8730w, and
140989 - downloaded to try for the HDX 18t. ref SDS 32 R18A
140991 - ..
140992 - On 099714 1504 called HP, Justin, supervisor Technical Support for HDX
140993 - 18t, said the two computers are larely identical for purposes of
140994 - drivers. There is strong certainly all or most of the drivers for the
140995 - EliteBook 8730w will run Windows XP 32-bit operating system on the HDX
140996 - 18t. ref SDS 33 F230 He feels that out of the 20 - 30 drivers needed
140997 - for the HDX 18t there might be 1 or 2 minor drivers that are not the
140998 - same, and these will likely not affect normal operations. The several
140999 - minor odd differences can be checked in the device driver after
141000 - installing all the drivers, and then updated on the Internet, as
141001 - recommended by Kevin and Randy in the HP video, reviewed on 090708.
141002 - ref SDS 18 YR7L
141003 -
141005 - ..
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1412 -
1413 - Progress
1414 -
141401 - XP Device Drivers for Elitebook 8730w Failed on HDX 18t for XP
141402 - Device Drivers Proposed HP Technical Support Failed on HDX 18t for XP
141403 - HP Technical Support Recommendation Devide Drivers Filed XP on HDX 18t
141404 -
141405 - Delivered c15 with drivers for XP on HDX 18t using files downloaded on
141406 - 090713. ref SDS 32 R18A
141408 - ..
141409 - Ryan had also downloaded drivers during his 2 days off at home. This
141410 - provides "two-bites at the apple" for accomplishing a successful
141411 - configuration for c16.
141413 - ..
141414 - Reviewed work plan on c15 for completing configuration of c16, and
141415 - positioned the record on 090712, so that Ryan can see the list of
141416 - things to do. ref SDS 28 GS3Y
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141420 - ..
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1418 -
141801 - Visited Ryan at Fry's.
141802 -
141803 - He has completed configuring Windows XP and 7 in dual boot mode on c16
141804 - (see below, for more on Windows 7, ref SDS 0 XW8M).
141805 -
141806 - [On 110102 1308 c16 xp operating system failing, Ryan
141807 - reinstalling. ref SDS 43 Y95G
141809 - ..
141810 - Ryan reported this evening that device drivers for runing Windows XP
141811 - 32-bit operating system on the Elitebook 8730w 64-bit HP notebook
141812 - computer, and which were downloaded yesterday onto c15, and on advice
141813 - of HP, ref SDS 32 R18A, did not work on the HDX 18t, also, an HP
141814 - 64-bit computer. He tried to install these drivers from the Device
141815 - Manager. They were all rejected. This conflicts with representations
141816 - by Justin, technical support supervisor for for HP HDX 18t, reported
141817 - yesterday on 090714 1504. ref SDS 33 F230
141818 -
141819 -
141821 - ..
141822 - C16 Missing 2 Minor Device Drivers
141823 - 64-bit Computer HP HDX 18t Runs Windows XP 32-bit OS Device Drivers
141824 - Ryan Configures XP 32-bit Device Drivers on HDX 18t 64-bit Computer
141825 -
141826 - Fortunately, software device drivers Ryan found for Windows XP on the
141827 - HDX 18t the past 2-days working at home during his time off, per
141828 - above, ref SDS 0 VA3M, installed and seem to be working correctly.
141830 - ..
141831 - Device Manager for Windows XP 32-bit operating system is still missing
141832 - 2 software drivers. One is for an "Unknown Device." The other is a
141833 - "Device for High Definition Audio Bus".
141835 - ..
141836 - There seems to be a total of 102 or so separate elements listed in the
141837 - Device Manager for c16, the HP HDX 18t computer. At this time, 100
141838 - have been configured, and 2 are still needed.
141840 - ..
141841 - Ryan explained that the driver for high definition audio is only used
141842 - for watching movies when the computer is connected with a cable to a
141843 - television.
141845 - ..
141846 - Ryan feels he can find the missing audio driver.
141848 - ..
141849 - He is uncertain what the other driver does, but expects that when XP
141850 - is updated with sp3, the unidentified driver will be fixed.
141851 -
141852 - [On 090719 1649 authenticated the operating system with Microsoft,
141853 - and upgraded XP to SP3; however, this did not install the missing
141854 - 2 device drivers. ref SDS 35 BF8O
141856 - ..
141857 - [On 090721 1400 Morris identified the "unknown" device as the
141858 - fingerprint reader; he found some drivers for for these devices
141859 - but neither worked on c16. ref SDS 37 OY3H
141861 - ..
141862 - [On 090729 1700 at 2050 Ryan found a device driver for the
141863 - "Unknown" device; installation cleared this error in the Device
141864 - Manager, and it cleared the "New Hardware Found" error message on
141865 - the screen during initial program launch; this "Unknown" device
141866 - driver was for controlling a fan to cool the motherboard.
141867 - ref SDS 39 469O
141869 - ..
141870 - [On 090729 2243 at 2210 was able to "update" device drivers for
141871 - missing High Definition Sound device, and this completed
141872 - installation of device drivers for c16. ref SDS 40 SI5H
141874 - ..
141875 - Ryan demonstrated wireless mouse working correctly for Windows XP.
141877 - ..
141878 - Ryan demonstrated dual boot for XP and w7.
141880 - ..
141881 - Windows xp is installed on....
141882 -
141883 - i:\Windows
141884 -
141885 - 7 Ultimate 32-bit installed on
141886 -
141887 - j:\Windows
141889 - ..
141890 - Operating system directories and files are not listed on c.
141892 - ..
141893 - This satisfies the order placed with Fry's on 090702 1828. ref SDS 16
141894 - NP62
141895 -
141896 - [On 110102 1308 c16 xp operating system failing, Ryan
141897 - reinstalling. ref SDS 43 Y95G
141899 - ..
141900 - Everything seems to be working, including the mouse in Windows 7
141901 - 32-bit and Windows 7 64-bit modes.
141903 - ..
141904 - Formatted drives d, e. f, g, and h. Drives c, i, and j were formatted
141905 - with installation of XP and w7. Formatting was done in w7. This took
141906 - less than 2 minutes, extremely fast.
141907 -
141908 - [On 090719 1824 c16 Windows 7 problem shutting down reporting
141909 - error with the Explorer utility that manages directories.
141910 - ref SDS 36 GJ6U Ryan's colleague, David Farmer, reported same
141911 - problem with his Windows 7 app, and solved the problem by
141912 - setting system sounds to off. ref SDS 36 OI94
141914 - ..
141915 - [On 090726 1705 c16 Windows 7 new problem will not launch,
141916 - after setting system sounds to off on 090719; David Farmer says
141917 - he has same problem with his computer running Windows 7;
141918 - develop work plan to run diagnostics to evaluate problems.
141919 - ref SDS 38 GJ6U
141921 - ..
141922 - [On 090729 1700 Ryan ran system diagnostics to discover and
141923 - correct problems running Wndows 7 pre-release version. This
141924 - was taking a lot time, so decided bring the computer back in
141925 - October and install the officeal release version of Windows 7
141926 - in hopes of correcting problems. ref SDS 39 5263
141928 - ..
141929 - [On 091109 1048 delivered c16 to Fry's so Ryan can implemenet
141930 - work plan to upgrade Windows 7 beta with official release code
141931 - that solves prior problems launching and shutting down Windows
141932 - 7. Key issue is to configure without Microsoft virtual memory
141933 - that displays Windows 7 code on the j drive as though it is on
141934 - the c drive. ref SDS 42 GJ6U
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141937 -
141952 - ..
141953 - Ryan installed the battery, and he installed the 2nd hard drive, so
141954 - there is a total of 500 GB. The spare battery was stored in the new
141955 - carrying case for c16.
141956 -
141957 - [On 090715 2143 configured c16 for normal operations, and found
141958 - that Windows XP 32-bit operating system running on the HDX 18t
141959 - 64-bit notebook computer runs extremely well, improving several
141960 - performance benchmarks by orders of magnitude. ref SDS 34 R18A
141962 - ..
141963 - Did a final test. When the program powers up, the dual boot option
141964 - lists Windows 7 as a primary operating system. Windows XP is not
141965 - listed, but is described as a "Previous" operating system.
141967 - ..
141968 - If no selection is made within 10 seconds or so, then c16
141969 - automatically continues to launch Windows 7 64-bit, rather than XP.
141970 - In order to use XP, it has to be expressly selected.
141972 - ..
141973 - When Windows XP is selected, the program initially displays an error
141974 - message...
141975 -
141976 - New Hardware Found
141977 -
141978 - ...which provides a mechanism to search for the missing device drivers
141979 - on the Internet.
141981 - ..
141982 - [On 090729 1700 at 2050 Ryan found a device driver for the
141983 - "Unknown" device; installation cleared this error in the
141984 - Device Manager, and it cleared the "New Hardware Found"
141985 - error message on the screen during initial program launch;
141986 - this "Unknown" device driver was for controlling a fan to
141987 - cool the motherboard. ref SDS 39 469O
141989 - ..
141990 - [On 090729 2288 ran Device Manager "update" feature on c16,
141991 - and this successfully found a Microsoft driver on the
141992 - Internet for the "High Definition Sound" device; all errors
141993 - have now been cleared from the Device Manager. ref SDS 40
141994 - W248
141996 - ..
141997 - Ryan demonstrated Windows XP 32-bit operating system seems to run
141998 - correctly after selecting "cancel" to close the New Hardware Found
141999 - error message.
142001 - ..
142002 - Accepted c16 and took possession signaling completion of Fry's
142003 - agreement on 090623 to configure dual boot wtih Windows XP and Windows
142004 - 7 to replace Vista 64-bit on the HDX 18t. ref SDS 10 0274
142006 - ..
142007 - This further accomplished HP's representation on 090623 that the HDX
142008 - 18t notebook computer can be configured with dual boot running Windows
142009 - XP and Windows 7. ref SDS 11 OE4J
142010 -
142011 - [On 090729 2288 ran Device Manager "update" feature on c16,
142012 - and this successfully found a Microsoft driver on the
142013 - Internet for the "High Definition Sound" device; all errors
142014 - have now been cleared from the Device Manager. ref SDS 40
142015 - W248
142017 - ..
142018 - [On 090729 2288 Ekiga continues to fail after installing
142019 - device driver on c16, for the "High Definition Sound"
142020 - device, which cleared all errors in the Device Manager.
142021 - ref SDS 40 W248
142023 - ..
142024 - [On 090906 1313 commend Fry's for outstanding work on c16,
142025 - with letter to Randy Fry using Direct Connect. ref SDS 41
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