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5604 - Summary/Objective
5605 -
560501 - Follow up ref SDS 21 0000. ref SDS 20 0000.
560502 -
560503 - Millie submitted a letter to Kaiser that explains continuing delay
560504 - getting treatment for IBC, ref SDS 0 YF8U, and requests authorization
560505 - for treatment of rising symptoms. ref SDS 0 BA9Y Arlette expedited
560506 - resolution of the problem. ref SDS 0 UE4O Millie took a short
560507 - vacation to give Kaiser time to resolve authorization issues, and
560508 - schedule treatment for IBC at UCSF. ref SDS 0 KX9H Jackie called
560509 - later and said UCSF is now satisfied that the problem is resolved.
560510 - Doctor Rugo will schedule a meeting with Millie. The doctor wants
560511 - Millie to have another CT test for a better baseline to evaluate
560512 - effectiveness of treatments. ref SDS 0 PQ4Q In the late afternoon,
560513 - Pam reported that Kaiser's Authorization Department submitted via FAX
560514 - to UCSF documentation of Kaiser's authorization for UCSF to treat
560515 - Millie, and culminating many hours of consultations with Medicare.
560516 - ref SDS 0 6S6L Pam generously donated personal time to call Millie in
560517 - Seattle to give her the good news. ref SDS 0 6T40
560518 -
560519 - [On 070125 UCSF schedules Millie for treatment on 070131.
560520 - ref SDS 22 YF8U
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5608 - Progress
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560901 - Treatment Delayed Not Enough Time Fix Kaiser Policy Conflict Medicare
560902 - Policy Conflict Kaiser Medicare Treatment Delayed Not Enough Time Fix
560903 - Medicare Policy Conflict Kaiser Treatment Delayed Not Enough Time Fix
560904 -
560905 - Follow up ref SDS 21 YF8U, ref SDS 20 YF8U.
560906 -
560907 - Millie submitted ref DIT 1 0001 to Arlette, because the doctor is on
560908 - vacation this week, reported yesterday. ref SDS 21 LP4L Margaret at
560909 - UCSF asked Millie for help yesterday on 070123 getting action from
560910 - Kaiser on payment authorization. ref SDS 21 LC7I Millie sent a letter
560911 - to her doctor at Kaiser, as requested by UCSF, ref SDS 21 J94L, and
560912 - then learned the doctor is on vacation. Jackie called a little later
560913 - on 070123, ref SDS 21 J94O, and suggested Millie submit a more
560914 - detailed letter to Kaiser explaining urgency to solve the problem.
560915 - ref SDS 21 FS33
560917 - ..
560918 - Millie's letter to Arlette at Kaiser says...
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560920 - 1. We seem to be having difficulty getting treatment at UCSF
560921 - prescribed by [my doctor] during the meeting on 070105.
560922 - ref DIT 1 0001
560924 - ..
560925 - 2. At that time on 070105, Doctor Johnson reported having made
560926 - arrangements with Doctor Rugo at UCSF for me to get treatment
560927 - of worsening IBC. He said that Kaiser does not have the kind
560928 - of treatment that UCSF can provide, similar to when he
560929 - prescribed radiation and sent me to Mt Diablo for treatment.
560930 - In that case, he just told me to report to Doctor Moini on a
560931 - particular date. I did that and got radiation treatment.
560932 - ref DIT 1 3364
560934 - ..
560935 - 3. This time he said to report to Doctor Rugo at UCSF for
560936 - treatment. I did that last Friday, on 070119. Doctor Rugo's
560937 - assistant Jackie said Kaiser has not completed arrangements, so
560938 - treatment was delayed. ref SDS 19 AS96 Jackie did a great job
560939 - working with Kaiser to resolve the problem, and said that
560940 - Doctor Rugo and [my primary care physician at Kaiser] want me
560941 - to have treatment NLT today to arrest rising symptoms and to
560942 - use the PET/CT baseline test for the clinical trial protocol.
560943 - ref SDS 19 AS5H, ref DIT 1 3377
560945 - ..
560946 - Millie mentioned the risk of rising medical cost in a letter to her
560947 - doctor at Kaiser, after Margaret called from UCSF on 070123.
560948 - ref SDS 21 SX5W
560950 - ..
560951 - Millie's letter to Arlette at Kaiser continues...
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560953 - 4. After I got back home from going to UCSF in the City, I
560954 - notified Doctor Johnson of the problem. He sent a letter late
560955 - on 070119 saying he signed the authorization, so everything was
560956 - good to go this week. ref SDS 19 4R4M However, on Monday,
560957 - [actually on Tuesday, 070123] Jackie called and said I cannot
560958 - come in for treatment, because UCSF has still not received the
560959 - authorization number from Kaiser. ref SDS 21 4Q54 I notified
560960 - Doctor Johnson again. He said [on 070119] there was confusion
560961 - at Kaiser with new procedures, ref SDS 19 LW9N, but the problem
560962 - was fixed by communications [on 070122] he had with Kaiser's
560963 - referral system. ref SDS 20 PN4I, ref DIT 1 1E7I
560965 - ..
560966 - 5. Yesterday, I got a call from Margret Rubino. She works with
560967 - Jackie in Doctor Rugo's office at UCSF coordinating Clincial
560968 - Trials. ref SDS 21 MW4H Margret did a great job facilitating
560969 - my visit to UCSF for examination by Doctor Benz on 060821,
560970 - which you recommended in your letter on 060809. ref SDS 3 3J4O
560971 - ref DIT 1 3392
560973 - ..
560974 - 6. In the call yesterday, Margaret was again very helpful
560975 - explaining that for some reason UCSF has not received an
560976 - authorization number from Kaier, which [my doctor] signed on
560977 - 070119, and so I cannot get treatment. ref SDS 21 3S3J
560978 - Margaret explained that she or someone on Doctor Rugo's team
560979 - tried to resolve the matter by calling Medicare. They were on
560980 - hold for 20 minutes or so, then got the famous message... "If
560981 - you would like to make a call, please hang up and dial back."
560982 - They tried again, and had the same experience, ref SDS 21 MW5Y,
560983 - with the result that UCSF has gone the extra mile to implement
560984 - [my doctor's] prescription for my treatment, but this has not
560985 - worked. ref DIT 1 3397
560987 - ..
560988 - 7. Jackie called back about 30 minutes later, and explained that
560989 - somehow or other UCSF needs an authorization, and without out
560990 - it the only way I can get treatment is to personally sign
560991 - something that would obligate me for expenses above my premiums
560992 - for insurance which I already pay to Kaiser. ref SDS 21 J94O
560993 - Since the cost of drugs and related issues are paid by the drug
560994 - trial process, UCSF requires payment for standard of care.
560995 - ref DIT 1 4F9O
560997 - ..
560998 - 8. Standard of care was discussed in correspondence between Doctor
560999 - Rugo and [my doctor] on 061230. At that time, [my doctor] told
561000 - Doctor Rugo that Kaiser would pay for any costs not covered by
561001 - the trial. ref SDS 7 3X6K, ref DIT 1 WF4M
561003 - ..
561004 - 9. I am very grateful for everyone's help. Doctor Rugo and her
561005 - staff, including Jackie, and Margaret have been wonderful. [My
561006 - doctor] came in on vacation this past Monday to order
561007 - additional blood work UCSF requested for the trial. ref SDS 20
561008 - LX6V I sent him a letter yesterday explaining the current
561009 - problem, ref SDS 21 J94L, but got a response back that he is on
561010 - vacation. ref SDS 21 LP4L ref DIT 1 3358
561012 - ..
561013 - 10. I realize that Michelle in your office has worked to resolve
561014 - the problem. She said you will be in the office today, so I am
561015 - asking for your assistance again to try and get things set up
561016 - for my chemotherapy treatment at UCSF in the same way that
561017 - things went so smoothly at Mt Diablo for radiation treatments.
561018 - Since Doctor Johnson has signed the authorization, can I get a
561019 - copy to take to UCSF, or is there some other way to get UCSF
561020 - the authorization number they require. ref DIT 1 AG5O
561022 - ..
561023 - 11. I am sending a copy to Margaret and Jackie to thank them for
561024 - extra effort, and to further coordinate in case I have not
561025 - explained the problem correctly. ref DIT 1 00W2
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561401 - Millie Leaves Town for Vacation in Seattle
561402 -
561403 - Took Millie to the airport in Oakland, and she departed on a vacation
561404 - visiting friends in Seattle for 4 days until 070127, per planning
561405 - yesterday to get away from the tensions of medical management,
561406 - ref SDS 21 PUPV, and implementing original planning reported to UCSF
561407 - on 070116. ref SDS 15 VQ3G
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561801 - Arlette Expedites Resolution with Kaiser Outside Authorization Dep
561802 -
561803 - After leaving on vacation, Millie received ref DRT 1 0001 from Arlette
561804 - responding to her letter, ref DIT 1 0001 earlier this morning,
561805 - relating patient history on delay getting treatment at UCSF, per
561806 - above, ref SDS 0 YF8U, and asking for Arlette's help. ref SDS 0 BA9Y
561808 - ..
561809 - Arlette says in her reply...
561810 -
561811 - I forwarded [Millie's letter today, per above, ref SDS 0 6H4J]
561812 - to our Outside Authorization Dept. Barbara Gin s/w a Lisa at
561813 - UCSF business office this am and sent her the statement about
561814 - senior advantage/Medicare. They have to bill medicare. It is
561815 - the law! They can not refuse. I also s/w a Barbara and gave
561816 - her your phone number and Dr. Rugo's phone number. She will
561817 - be on it! UCSF is not wanting to do their part. I hope this
561818 - gets straightened out soon! ref DRT 1 0001
561819 -
561820 - [...below, Arlette's expediting successful; Jackie at UCSF
561821 - called and left message UCSF ready to treat Millie.
561822 - ref SDS 0 PQ4Q
561824 - ..
561825 - [...below, Pam in Kaiser Authorization Department reports
561826 - Barbara worked with Medicare to solve the problem and that
561827 - Kaiser submitted an authorization number to UCSF.
561828 - ref SDS 0 6S6L
561830 - ..
561831 - [On 070125 UCSF schedules Millie for treatment on 070131.
561832 - ref SDS 22 YF8U
561834 - ..
561835 - [On 070126 commended Arlette for resolving authorization
561836 - problem quickly. ref SDS 23 YF8U
561838 - ..
561839 - [On 070309 Arlette's schedule change; can no longer
561840 - coordinate case management for the doctor, because there
561841 - isn't enough time to get content transferred into the
561842 - doctor's computer program. ref SDS 24 VP73
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562201 - Authorization Problem Solved UCSF Requires Another PET/CT Test
562202 - UCSF Ready to Give Millie Treatment Requires Another PET/CT Test
562203 -
562204 - After returning from taking Millie to the airport, received telephone
562205 - message from Jackie saying UCSF has resolved authorization problems,
562206 - so that Millie can now get treatment.
562207 -
562208 - [On 070125 UCSF schedules Millie for treatment on 070131.
562209 - ref SDS 22 YF8U
562211 - ..
562212 - Doctor Rugo wants Millie to get another PET/CT test, as discussed with
562213 - Jackie yesterday on 070123. ref SDS 21 J438
562214 -
562215 - [On 070125 Doctor Rugo orders updated CT test to begin new
562216 - treatments at UCSF; request CT test for pulmonary embolism.
562217 - ref SDS 22 Z24H
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562601 - Called and left message for Jackie advising that Millie is traveling
562602 - until Saturday.
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563001 - Called Millie on her cell phone. She is still in the airport at
563002 - Oakland. Advised of evident good news from Jackie. Explained UCSF
563003 - wants another PET/CT test.
563005 - ..
563006 - Millie was elated to have this finally solved.
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563401 - Kaiser Authorization Approved for Millie Treatment of Advancing Cancer
563402 -
563403 - Pam called from Kaiser. She is the representative in Kaiser's
563404 - Referrals Authorization Department mentioned in Michelle's letter
563405 - yesterday morning, ref SDS 21 575F, and referenced in Arlette's letter
563406 - today explaining Kaiser's efforts in the Oncology Department to
563407 - expedite authorization for Millie's treatment at UCSF, per above.
563408 - ref SDS 0 UE4O
563410 - ..
563411 - Pam said they solved the problem getting authorization from Medicare
563412 - yesterday afternoon for Kaiser's referral to UCSF. This seems to
563413 - confirm understandings from Jackie's earlier telephone message
563414 - indicating UCSF can now schedule Millie to meet with Doctor Rugo, and
563415 - then get treatment that has been delayed now nearly 2 months, per
563416 - above. ref SDS 0 PQ4Q
563417 -
563418 - [On 070125 UCSF schedules Millie for treatment on 070131.
563419 - ref SDS 22 YF8U
563421 - ..
563422 - Pam related that her colleague, Barbara talked for about 8 hours over
563423 - the past several days with Kaiser's Medicare branch. This aligns with
563424 - Arlette's letter to Millie earlier today on expediting resolution, per
563425 - above. ref SDS 0 UE4O
563427 - ..
563428 - Pam seemed to indicate that Barbara was on hold for long periods
563429 - before making contact, similar to experience at UCSF reported
563430 - yesterday. ref SDS 21 MW5Y Barbara and the Medicare representatives
563431 - eventually worked out a solution to support the doctor's prescription
563432 - on 070105 for Millie to get treatment she needs at UCSF. Pam
563433 - indicated that yesterday afternoon Barbara submitted via fax to Lisa
563434 - authorization required by UCSF and approved by the primary care
563435 - physician on 070119. ref SDS 19 4R4M
563436 -
563437 - [On 070126 Arlette called and confirmed that Kaiser submitted
563438 - referral authorization for Millie to get treatment at UCSF.
563439 - ref SDS 23 F179
563441 - ..
563442 - Lisa works for UCSF, and was cited in Michelle's letter yesterday for
563443 - collaborating with Pam in Kaiser'a Authorization department.
563444 - ref SDS 21 575F Lisa was also mentioned in Arlette's letter today,
563445 - per above. ref SDS 0 GD6M
563446 -
563447 - [On 070125 Jackie reported that UCSF did not receive an
563448 - authorization from Kaiser, and that Lisa in UCSF's Business
563449 - Office spent 6 hours talking to Medicare for authorization that
563450 - UCSF would be paid for treating Millie. ref SDS 22 4Y62
563452 - ..
563453 - Pam said that Millie does not need Kaiser authorization, because
563454 - Medicare is required to pay for clinical trials. Pam did not explain
563455 - how getting prescribed treatment at UCSF differs from getting
563456 - prescribed treatent at Mt Diablo, set out in Millie's letter to
563457 - Arlette this morning, per above. ref SDS 0 YF8U
563459 - ..
563460 - Pam did not explain why Kaiser and Medicare required 8 hours of
563461 - telephone discussion to implement the doctor's prescription for Millie
563462 - to get treatment at UCSF. The steps and authority in government
563463 - regulations applied in this case, and likely required for future work
563464 - on similar issues are not evident in the record for developing lessons
563465 - learned.
563467 - ..
563468 - Pam did not explain why after solving the problem yesterday afternoon,
563469 - the patient was not notified until late in the afternoon today, after
563470 - Arlette got involved this morning to expedite the work, per above.
563471 - ref SDS 0 UE4O
563473 - ..
563474 - Unless this matter can be streamlined to work like the doctor's
563475 - referral for Millie to get radiation treatment at Mt Diablo, reported
563476 - in the letter to Arlette this morning, per above, ref SDS 0 BA3W,
563477 - doctors at Kaiser will be reluctant to prescribe essential treatment
563478 - at UCSF, and UCSF will avoid referrals from Kaiser, resulting in
563479 - higher cost and reduced care for patients.
563481 - ..
563482 - Asked Pam to call Millie and let her know the hard work that Pam and
563483 - her colleague Barbara have done for Millie.
563485 - ..
563486 - Millie left town for a short vacation from problems the past few days
563487 - that prevented Millie from getting treatment last Friday, again
563488 - yesterday, and again today, as explained by Jackie at UCSF yesterday.
563489 - ref SDS 21 J94O
563491 - ..
563492 - Gave Millie's cell phone number to Pam.
563494 - ..
563495 - Asked Pam to submit a letter confirming the steps Kaiser took to
563496 - complete authorization for Millie's treatment at UCSF. Pam indicated
563497 - that her boss feels writing up the record in a letter to the customer
563498 - would not be a good use of her time.
563500 - ..
563501 - Asked Pam for an email address where she can receive a letter
563502 - confirming understandings from the call today. Pam said her boss does
563503 - not permit staff to receive correspondence from customers to verify
563504 - accuracy of understandings.
563506 - ..
563507 - Pam advised that her shift at Kaiser has ended, but she will call
563508 - Millie on her cell phone to report good news that Kaiser has resolved
563509 - payment authorization so that Millie can start getting treatment at
563510 - UCSF ordered by the primary care physician.
563512 - ..
563513 - Thanked Pam for Kaiser's work, and consideration to give Millie
563514 - personal notification.
563515 -
563516 - [On 070125 UCSF schedules Millie for treatment on 070131.
563517 - ref SDS 22 YF8U
563518 -
563519 - [On 070917 Virginia in Kaiser's Medicare Member Services
563520 - Department said her boss does not permit customer
563521 - representatives to submit documentation confirming telephone
563522 - representations with customers, memebers, and patients.
563523 - ref SDS 25 E16Y
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