THE WELCH COMPANY
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S U M M A R Y
DIARY: January 11, 2007 05:41 AM Thursday;
Rod Welch
Trend Micro Pccillin request progress report on program corrections.
1...Summary/Objective
2...Case number: 1-71716742
3...Pccillin Security 2006 Decide Not to Upgrade to Security 2007
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SUBJECTS
Progress Solving Pccillin Trend Micro Installation Failure Security
1203 -
1203 - ..
1204 - Summary/Objective
1205 -
120501 - Follow up ref SDS 12 0000. ref SDS 9 0000.
120502 -
120503 -
120504 -
120505 -
120506 -
120507 -
120508 -
120510 - ..
1206 -
1207 -
1208 - Progress
1209 -
120901 - Previously, on 070105 submitted a letter ref DIP 1 0001, answering
120902 - Len's letter dated the following day, 070106, and requesting FTP
120903 - submission of diagnostic files on failed installation of Pccillin on
120904 - c14 and c15. The letter to Trend Micro reported performing this
120905 - request.
120907 - ..
120908 - Pc-cillin
120909 - Internet Security 2005
120910 - Trend Micro
120911 - 10101 North DeAnza Blvd
120912 - Cupertino, CA 95014
120913 - 408 257 1500
120915 - ..
120916 - Tech Support 800 864 6027
120917 -
120918 - support@trendmicro.com
120920 - ..
120921 - Info@trendmacro.com
120923 - ..
120924 - http://www.trendmacro.com
120926 - ..
120927 - Case number: 1-71716742
120929 - ..
120930 - On Monday, 070109, received a letter from a different channel at Trend
120931 - Micro asking for reponse to a "solution" provided. Yesterday, got
120932 - another letter saying Trend Micro dropped support because customer did
120933 - not respond.
120935 - ..
120936 - This morning, submitted ref DIT 1 0001 to Len saying...
120937 -
120938 - 1. Just checking on your progress. Last week on 070105 you
120939 - requested uploaded via FTP a group of diagnostic files. My
120940 - letter, ref DIP 1 0001, the same date reported performing that
120941 - task, ref SDS 12 BV5J, as shown below. ref DIT 1 0001
120943 - ..
120944 - 2. A few days ago, Millie got a letter from Trend Micro,
120945 - ref DIT 1 EE5N, saying...
120947 - ..
120948 - 1. Subject: [SR #: 1-71716742] RE: [PC2K6][INSTALLATION]tdi failed
120949 - Date: 9 Jan 2007 11:37:43 +0800
120950 - From: Pcc4dell@support.trendmicro.com
120953 - ..
120954 - 2. Dear Customer,
120956 - ..
120957 - We have not received a response from you regarding above
120958 - case since our first follow-up. It is important that you
120959 - reply to us on the status of your case so we can keep this
120960 - case open or close it in our database. ref DIT 1 XE6L
120962 - ..
120963 - 3. We would appreciate receiving your response within two (2)
120964 - days from the date of this email. Otherwise, we shall deem
120965 - that the solution(s) we provided you has/have resolved your
120966 - issues with our product and shall close above service
120967 - request. Please disregard this notice if you have replied
120968 - to our last email. ref DIT 1 BF7J
120970 - ..
120971 - 4. Trend Micro Support Center
120972 - Trend Micro, Incorporated
120973 - [URL / website] http://www.trendmicro.com/
120974 - [Knowledge Base] http://kb.trendmicro.com/solutions/
120975 - [Contact us] http://www.trendmicro.com/support/contact_us.htm
120976 -
120977 - **************************
120979 - ..
120980 - 3. Yesterday, we received another letter from the same folks who
120981 - said Trend Micro is dropping support for the problem, because
120982 - the customer has not responded to the "solution we have
120983 - provided..." ref DIT 1 RH9F
120985 - ..
120986 - 4. I sent a response saying...
120987 -
120988 - 1. Thanks for your letter. You have not provided any solution.
120989 - Len is working on this and has a 2 month window to submit
120990 - corrected code for installing Pccillin Security 2007.
120991 - ref DIT 1 BG9M
120993 - ..
120994 - 2. Please submit progress report.
120995 -
120996 - *********************
120998 - ..
120999 - 5. Accordingly, I would like to hear back from you on progress
121000 - reviewing the diagnostic files, submitted on 070105, and level
121001 - of effort toward a solution. ref DIT 1 RH5H
121002 -
121003 -
121005 - ..
1211 -
1212 -
1213 - 1140
1214 -
121401 - Received ref DRT 1 0001 from Len dated tomorrow, 070112, because the
121402 - Phillipines is across the International date line, and responding to
121403 - the letter earlier today, ref DIT 1 0001, dated today, 070711, per
121404 - above. ref SDS 0 OC6L
121405 -
121406 - 1. [Responding to your letter dated January 12, 2007, and asking
121407 - for progress solving problems installing pccillin.exe...],
121408 - ref SDS 0 OC6L
121410 - ..
121411 - 2. CHECK YOUR EMAILS AGAIN because I did send you a solution right
121412 - after I saw your logs on posted on the ftp link I have given
121413 - you. ref DRT 1 TN5O
121415 - ..
121416 - 3. That auto-reply messages you've been getting is just part of
121417 - our process, if we don't hear from clients 3 days after the
121418 - last solution was given. ref DRT 1 UN6I
121420 - ..
121421 - 4. VERY IMPORTANT: In order for us to have a history of our
121422 - correspondence, please do not delete the subject and the
121423 - contents of this email. ref DRT 1 4O6N
121425 - ..
121426 - After Len's letter was received, another letter was delivered from
121427 - AT&T Yahoo submitting a letter from Len dated 070109. AT&T Yahoo says
121428 - that Len's letter was intercepted because of a virus risk.
121429 -
121430 -
121431 -
121433 - ..
1215 -
1216 -
1217 - 1205
1218 -
121801 - Pccillin Security 2006 Decide Not to Upgrade to Security 2007
121802 -
121803 - Submitted ref DIT 2 0001 to Len responding to her letter above, and
121804 - discussing her earlier letter on 070109 that was received just today,
121805 - shown below, ref SDS 0 664T, and responded to the letter on 070105,
121806 - and which submitted diagnostic files requested by Trend Micro.
121807 - ref SDS 12 BV5J
121809 - ..
121810 - Decided not to upgrade to Security 2007, because the process seems too
121811 - unstable.
121813 - ..
121814 - 1. I just got your letter dated 070112 saying you sent a letter on
121815 - 070109 with a solution. ref DIT 2 0001
121817 - ..
121818 - 2. Your letter on 070109, however, was not received until today, a
121819 - few minutes ago on 070111. As you can see from the attached
121820 - letter below, your letter on 070109 was submitted to us by AT&T
121821 - Yahoo, after intercepting your letter which they considered a
121822 - risk for virus. Since AT&T Yahoo is not intercepting all
121823 - letters, including your letter this morning, it is not clear
121824 - why the earlier letter was stopped, or the criteria for this
121825 - action. ref DIT 2 FT5M
121827 - ..
121828 - 3. Note that dates of correspondence seem out of sequence, because
121829 - evidently you are a day ahead of us here in California.
121830 - ref DIT 2 KT6M
121832 - ..
121833 - 4. In any case, looking through your instructions, this seems like
121834 - more than I bargained for. ref SDS 0 664T I have been working
121835 - with computers for 30 years. In my experience there will be 2
121836 - or 3 things go wrong that require further support to implement
121837 - the steps you list, not because you did anything wrong, but
121838 - because computer work is detailed and precise, and often
121839 - comprises "wicked problems" that take days and weeks to solve.
121840 - ref DIT 2 WT7G
121842 - ..
121843 - 5. I did not intend to buy a new software program and go through
121844 - the exercise of debugging the installation op. That is very
121845 - expensive in time and money. Right now I have very limited
121846 - time. ref DIT 2 RT8F
121848 - ..
121849 - 6. I want to keep the 2006 version already installed, and simply
121850 - update the virus scan check list through the year, as we have
121851 - the past several years. Right now I am good through 070223.
121852 - Can you please arrange to extend this to the end of 2007, and
121853 - we will let it go at that. ref DIT 2 6U8K
121855 - ..
121856 - 7. I have two tech support issues with the current version...
121857 -
121858 - 1. Vulnerability check takes off on its own and interrupts my
121859 - work. ref DIT 2 BU9H
121861 - ..
121862 - 2. Since we went through the exercise of re-installing version
121863 - 2006 a few weeks ago, this thing is updated itself without
121864 - direction from the user, and Trend Micro seems to be
121865 - sending messages in a pop up window in the lower right
121866 - corner of the screen.
121868 - ..
121869 - 8. Please call me at 925 680 8947 to resolve pending issues.
121870 -
121871 -
121872 - **************************************
121874 - ..
121875 - Attached to the letter to Len, is the letter received from AT&T Yahoo
121876 - reporting Len's letter on 070109 was intercepted to avoid risk of
121877 - virus...
121879 - ..
121880 - 1. January 11, 2007
121881 - "AT&T Yahoo! Mail Virus Protection" wrote:
121883 - ..
121884 - 2. Your AT&T Yahoo! Mail Virus Protection was temporarily
121885 - unavailable when you downloaded the enclosed message.
121886 - Therefore, its attachment 'vb2007_win_en_setacl_20061106.zip'
121887 - has not been scanned for viruses. We Advise you to scan the
121888 - attachment before opening it. You have two options:
121889 -
121890 - Scan the file with anti-virus software. If you don't have
121891 - anti-virus software installed on your computer, you are
121892 - vulnerable to viruses.
121894 - ..
121895 - Send the enclosed message back to your AT&T Yahoo! Mail
121896 - address and download it later. We hope to have virus
121897 - scanning available shortly.
121899 - ..
121900 - 3. We're sorry for the inconvenience.
121902 - ..
121903 - 4. AT&T Yahoo! Mail successfully cleans most infected attachments, which
121904 - protects you from viruses.
121905 -
121906 - **********************************
121908 - ..
121909 - Attached to the letter from AT&T Yahoo is a letter from Len dated
121910 - 070109 that was intercepted for virus risk, and not delivered until
121911 - today...
121913 - ..
121914 - 1. Subject: FW: Case 1-71716742 Installation Logs Transfered Per Request
121915 - Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 01:41:12 +0800
121916 - From:
121917 - To:
121918 -
121919 - ***********************
121921 - ..
121922 - 2. Warning: Your file,
121924 - ..
121925 - 3. vb2007_win_en_setacl_20061106.zip/vb2007_win_en_setacl_20061106.exe, is
121926 - password-protected. It was not scanned by InterScan MSS.
121927 -
121928 - ***********************
121930 - ..
121931 - For some reason AT&T Yahoo split up the header from the letter sent
121932 - by Len at Trend Micro; the rest is shown below...
121934 - ..
121935 - 1. RECOPYING you of the solution...
121936 -
121937 - -----Original Message-----<BR>
121938 - From: Elena Quitoriano (TS-PH)<BR>
121939 - Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 5:45 AM<BR>
121940 - To: 'Rod Welch'<BR>
121941 - Subject: RE: Case 1-71716742 Installation Logs Transfered Per Request
121943 - ..
121944 - 2. Thanks Rod!
121946 - ..
121947 - This responds to the letter, ref SDS 12 BV5J,
121949 - ..
121950 - Trend Micro's letter on 070109 continues...
121951 -
121952 - 3. Try this solution please:
121953 -
121954 - A. Uninstall PC-cillin Internet Security 2007:
121955 -
121956 - Use the same pcctool.exe that I have sent you (the one
121957 - inside tools.zip) Run the tool to remove all traces of
121958 - Trendmicro on your pc
121960 - ..
121961 - Once restarted right click on My Computer and choose
121962 - properties
121964 - ..
121965 - Click on the hardware tab > device manager
121967 - ..
121968 - Click on view > show hidden devices
121970 - ..
121971 - Double click on Non Plug and Play drivers
121973 - ..
121974 - Search for
121975 -
121976 - - tmpreflt
121977 - - tmxpflt
121978 - - trend micro mbd driver
121979 - - trend micro tdi driver
121980 - - vsapint
121982 - ..
121983 - If found please right click on each and choose the
121984 - uninstall option
121986 - ..
121987 - NOTE:You may need to restart the computer for every
121988 - uninstallation of each of the device.
121990 - ..
121991 - Open up My Computer> Local C:> Program Files >
121993 - ..
121994 - Right Click on TRENDMICRO folder then choose delete
121996 - ..
121997 - Click start then run and type %temp%
121999 - ..
122000 - Delete all contents of temp folder
122002 - ..
122003 - B. Download attached vb2007_win_en_setacl_20061106.zip and extract it
122004 -
122005 - To extract, do as follows:
122006 -
122007 - 1. Right click on the zip file and choose EXTRACT ALL.
122008 - 2. Click on NEXT and click BROWSE.
122009 - 3. Highlight (by clicking) the folder/directory where you wish to save the files to .
122010 - 4. Click on OK.
122011 - 5. Click on NEXT to start decompressing the files.
122012 - 6. Click on FINISH once the process is complete.
122014 - ..
122015 - Run vb2007_win_en_setacl_20061106.exe by clicking on it
122017 - ..
122018 - C. Installing PC-cillin Internet Security 2007:
122019 -
122020 - Downloading and installing latest build
122022 - ..
122023 - Download and save the installer file on your Desktop by clicking on
122024 - the link below:
122025 -
122026 - ftp://ftpuser:ftp-trend@ftp-download.trendmicro.com.ph/retail/tis15/1449/PCC15.0_b1449_full.ex
122028 - ..
122029 - Right click on the downloaded file and select there Rename
122030 - Add the letter 'e' at the end of the file name (so it must
122031 - be PCC15.0_b1449_full.exe) and press enter Run the
122032 - installer file to proceed to the installation process
122034 - ..
122035 - 4. If this would still not be able to resolve the situation please send us another
122036 - copy of the debug log files so that we can re-analyze it.
122038 - ..
122039 - 5. To gather the debug logs please refer to the link below:
122040 -
122041 - http://esupport.trendmicro.com/support/viewxml.do?ContentID=EN-1032904
122043 - ..
122044 - 6. It is beneficial for our records to be up to date, by simply
122045 - REPLYING back to this email. Please let me know if I was able
122046 - to resolve your concern(s) so I may formally close this case
122047 - for you. A simple "Close this case" note would do.
122048 -
122050 - ..
1221 -
1222 -
1223 - 1441
1224 -
122401 - Received ref DRT 2 0001 from Len responding to the letter earlier
122402 - today reporting we decided to stick with version Seciruity 2006, per
122403 - above, and not install security 2007. ref SDS 0 655R
122404 -
122405 - 1. Thanks for clearing that out. I just had to say that cause you
122406 - might think that I never provided a solution or replied back
122407 - after you uploaded the files I need. ref DRT 2 0001
122409 - ..
122410 - 2. I'll be glad to assist you again Rod but I don't have the
122411 - liberty to do callbacks. Please call us and try to ask for me,
122412 - if I'm free I can ask for the call to be transferred to me but
122413 - otherwise, you'll have to speak to anyone who answers the call.
122414 - ref DRT 2 NH5M
122416 - ..
122417 - 3. The instructions I sent you may look complicated but it is
122418 - actually step-by-step and should take care of the problem.
122419 - However, since you choose to continue using 2006, the best I
122420 - can offer is extend it for up to 6 months. ref DRT 2 YH6I
122421 -
122422 - [...below, letter to Trend Micro asks to extend
122423 - subscription for another year. ref SDS 0 7P6H
122425 - ..
122426 - 4. About vulnerability check, have you already checked the links
122427 - it gives you? ref DRT 2 5I6O
122429 - ..
122430 - 5. Have you checked if you have all those Microsoft
122431 - patches/updates that our program mentions? It would help if
122432 - you can manually go to
122433 -
122434 - http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/
122436 - ..
122437 - ...to check for updates. ref DRT 2 TI7I
122439 - ..
122440 - 6. The update issue is not quite clear to me though. By default,
122441 - PC-cillin is set to check for updates and you will of course be
122442 - notified about it. ref DRT 2 0J8H If you want to stop the
122443 - pop-ups, do as follows:
122445 - ..
122446 - Disable PC-cillin pop-ups
122447 -
122448 - a. Open the main console, then click General on the left
122449 - b. Click Preferences
122450 - c. On Pop-up manager, Click Configure button
122451 - d. Uncheck the things you dont want to be notified about
122452 - e. Click OK then Apply
122454 - ..
122455 - 7. Please do let me know the results in detail. If anything is
122456 - unclear, do not hesitate to let us know and we're glad to help,
122457 - ref DRT 2 IJ9I
122459 - ..
122460 - 8. VERY IMPORTANT: In order for us to have a history of our
122461 - correspondence, please do not delete the subject and the
122462 - contents of this email. ref DRT 2 3K9M
122463 -
122464 -
122465 -
122467 - ..
1225 -
1226 -
1227 - 1458
1228 -
122801 - Submitted ref DIT 3 0001 responding to Len's letter submitted earlier
122802 - today, ref DRT 2 0001, and received above. ref SDS 0 5C9J
122803 -
122804 - 1. Thanks for your letter today offering to extend Pccillin 2006
122805 - for 6 months, and responding to my letter, also today,
122806 - requesting that payment of $50 for the new version 2007 that
122807 - covered a full year be applied equitably to obtain a full year
122808 - of updated virus definitions. Since we have paid for a year,
122809 - we should get a year. If Trend Micro fails to perform on its
122810 - agreement, then we will buy something else.
122812 - ..
122813 - 2. Want to be clear, I feel you have done an excellent job in all
122814 - respects handling this case.
122816 - ..
122817 - 3. However, I am not skilled enough to manage Pccillin Security
122818 - 2007. Since we have had success with Security 2006, it makes
122819 - sense to continue with it, and not waste more time.
122821 - ..
122822 - 4. On the vulnerability check issue, I asked how to disconnect the
122823 - report, because it disrupts my work.
122825 - ..
122826 - 5. On Disabling Pccillin popups, I ran through the steps in your
122827 - letter today, shown below; they all look okay.
122829 - ..
122830 - 6. I don't know what "Outbreak Warning" is about? Can you
122831 - clarify?
122833 - ..
122834 - 7. The problem is the program updates itself without authority.
122835 - Previously, when I decided to update virus definitions, I did
122836 - that. Now other folks are controlling the process on my
122837 - computers, and that conflicts with our policy. So there is
122838 - some default set somewhere by someone at Trend Micro to simply
122839 - take off and do things. That is what I want disconnected.
122841 - ..
122842 - 8. Thanks very much for your assistance.
122843 -
122844 -
122846 - ..
1229 -
1230 -
1231 - 2212
1232 -
123201 - Received ref DRT 3 0001 dated 070112 from Len at Trend Micro in the
123202 - Phillipines, responding to the letter, ref DIT 3 0001, submitted
123203 - earlier today, per above. ref SDS 0 7P6H
123205 - ..
123206 - Len says...
123207 -
123208 - 1. Can you attach a copy of your confirmation email. If you are
123209 - using a different serial number for 2006, I can easily grant
123210 - your request [to extend the subscription getting virus
123211 - definitions for another year, per above. ref SDS 0 7P6H] =).
123212 - ref DRT 3 0001
123214 - ..
123215 - On 061224, Millie received a confirmation letter for ordering the
123216 - initial virus definition subscription renewal. ref SDS 8 HF6I
123217 -
123218 - [On 070114 submitted Trend Micro's confirmation letter to Len
123219 - at Trend Micro. ref SDS 13 T63G
123221 - ..
123222 - On 070103 installation of order received on 061224 failed, ref SDS 9
123223 - 0001, Trend Micro provided another Pccillin download, ref SDS 10 1T9L,
123224 - that also failed. ref SDS 10 IX4J
123226 - ..
123227 - Trend Micro's letter from Len continues...
123228 -
123229 - 2. Check serial number that's entered on your 2006 internet
123230 - security also (click about on lower right corner of main
123231 - console). I need both information on your reply. ref DRT 3
123232 - V25L
123234 - ..
123235 - Serial number for the virus definition subscription extension Len
123236 - provided....
123237 -
123239 -
123240 - ...conflicts with the serial number shown in the program "About"
123241 - menu...
123243 - ..
123246 - ..
123247 - [On 070114 submitted serial number to Len at Trend Micro.
123248 - ref SDS 13 T63G
123250 - ..
123251 - Trend Micro's letter from Len continues...
123252 -
123253 - 3. Check update settings also for pc-cillin:
123254 -
123255 - 1. Open the PC-cillin Internet Security console. Do any of
123256 - the following:
123258 - ..
123259 - Click Start >Programs >Trend Micro PC-cillin Internet
123260 - Security 2006 >Main Console.
123262 - ..
123263 - Double-click the PC-cillin icon in the Windows system
123264 - tray.
123266 - ..
123267 - 2. The main console appears.
123269 - ..
123270 - 3. Click the Configure button for Automatic Update.
123272 - ..
123273 - 4. The Update information appears.
123275 - ..
123276 - 5. Simply remove the checkmark from AUTOMATICALLY CHECK FOR
123277 - UDPATES then click apply.
123279 - ..
123280 - 4. Thing is when you do that, you will have to make sure that you
123281 - manually click on UPDATE NOW on the main console just to make
123282 - sure you are using all the latest components from us.
123284 - ..
123285 - 5. "Outbreak Warning" is what we send the clients if there is a
123286 - serious threat that's on the wild. It will tell you whether we
123287 - are on alert for viruses and I advice you to keep it checked
123288 - just to make sure you will be notified to update in case an
123289 - outbreak happens.
123291 - ..
123292 - Len's explanation sounds like Trend Micro somehow sends a message
123293 - through the Pccillin software program, which creates a security risk
123294 - to our computer, because there is no user authorization for the
123295 - access.
123297 - ..
123298 - Notice of virus outbreaks occur routinely in the news.
123300 - ..
123301 - Our policy on confidentiality and security is for people to send a
123302 - letter, like Len has done. We will make a review, and take
123303 - appropriate action. There is no evident benefit to compromise
123304 - security by giving someone direct access to our computers.
123305 -
123306 - [On 070114 letter to Trend Micro asks how to turn this
123307 - feature off. ref SDS 13 DM8Y
123308 -
123309 -
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123312 -
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123317 -
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