THE WELCH COMPANY
440 Davis Court #1602
San Francisco, CA 94111-2496
415 781 5700
rodwelch@pacbell.net


S U M M A R Y


DIARY: October 15, 2003 12:25 PM Wednesday; Rod Welch

Call to correct error in monthly invoice for telephone service.

1...Summary/Objective
2...925 680 8948 Analysis of SBC Charges and Payments
3...DSL Rate Reduction Implemented Lowering Monthly Charges by $10
4...Error in Payment Accounting Resolved by Proper Credit Allocations
5...925 680 8947 SBC Charging for 25 Minutes Technical Support by McAfee
6...McAfee Charging for 25 Minutes Technical Support on 925 680 8947


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CONTACTS 
0201 - Pacific Bell Network Services
020101 - Ms. Evelyn Bannon; Technical Advisor
020103 - DSL Help Desk
0202 - Network Associates, Inc.
020201 - Mr. NFN NLN
020202 - McAfee Technical Support
020203 - Customer Service

SUBJECTS
Pac Bell Case Number 31835126 Case Number Error in Billing for Repairs
Invoice Error for McAfee Priority Support 030814 25 Minutes $75.96 Char
$75.96 Charged to Telephone 925 680 8947 Invoice Error for Technical Su
Invoice Error for McAfee Priority Support 030814 25 Minutes $75.96 Char

0706 -
0706 -    ..
0707 - Summary/Objective
0708 -
070801 - Follow up ref SDS 13 0000. ref SDS 12 0000.
070802 -
070803 - This past July Millie received a letter from SBC saying the monthly
070804 - charge for DSL Internet service is reduced from $39.95 to $29.95.
070805 - This changes the original agreement that planned for service to
070806 - increase to $49.95.
070808 -  ..
070809 - This $20 per month savings is significant, and was not shown on the
070810 - August invoice.  Since Millie's DSL service began in September of
070811 - 2002, OA 020916, ref SDS 1 PO9I, the rate change should go into
070812 - effect in October.
070813 -
070814 -
070816 -  ..
070817 - 925 680 8948 Analysis of SBC Charges and Payments
070818 - DSL Rate Reduction Implemented Lowering Monthly Charges by $10
070819 - Error in Payment Accounting Resolved by Proper Credit Allocations
070820 -
070821 - SBC invoice for telephone 925 680 4848 and closing date 031005 seems
070822 - to show an amount for DSL service.....
070823 -
070824 -
070825 -                          $22.97
070826 -
070828 -  ..
070829 - The corresponding amount for the prior month was...
070830 -
070831 -                          $39.95
070832 -
070834 -  ..
070835 - This record appears to implement SBC's planned rate reduction.
070836 - ref SDS 0 0001
070837 -
070839 -  ..
070840 - The total standard monthly rate for account 925 680 8948 seems to be
070841 - shown as...
070842 -
070843 -                          $39.83
070844 -
070846 -  ..
070847 - Typically this should be the paid month to month.
070849 -  ..
070850 - Millie is concerned the amount showed owing and due to SBC is for...
070851 -
070852 -                          $87.44
070853 -
070855 -  ..
070856 - Why is SBC billing for....
070857 -
070858 -                          $47.61
070859 -
070860 - ...more than the standard amount owed?
070862 -  ..
070863 - The amount of the billing ending 030905 was for...
070864 -
070865 -                          $58.44
070867 -  ..
070868 - Millie has this amount circled with a date of 030922 seeming to
070869 - suggest that is the amount she paid.
070871 -  ..
070872 - SBC shows on its invoice receiving payment on 030926 the amount of...
070873 -
070874 -                          $11.53
070876 -  ..
070877 - This difference from $58.44 is the approximate amount of additional
070878 - payment SBC seeks to recover on the current invoice.
070880 -  ..
070881 - Review of SBC's invoice for period ending 030905 on the other
070882 - telephone account 925 680 8947 shows amount owed of $11.53.  Further,
070883 - SBC's invoice for the current period ending 031005 on telephone
070884 - account 925 680 8947 shows that SBC received payment in the amount of
070885 - $58.44 on 030926.  This record suggests that extra payment was made
070886 - to SBC on account 925 680 8947 in the amount of...
070887 -
070888 -                          $47.61
070889 -
070890 - ...which reconciles the outstanding amount owed this period for
070891 - account 925 680 8948, per above. ref SDS 0 IN44
070892 -
070893 -     [On 031103 SBC notifies Millie of past due payment in the amount
070894 -     of $47.61 on account 925 680 8948. ref SDS 17 LP55
070895 -
070896 -
070898 -  ..
070899 - 925 680 8947 SBC Charging for 25 Minutes Technical Support by McAfee
070900 - McAfee Charging for 25 Minutes Technical Support on 925 680 8947
070901 -
070902 - Follow up ref SDS 14 0001, ref SDS 9 0001.
070903 -
070904 - Page 2 of SBC's invoice for period ending 031005 shows a charge....
070905 -
070906 -     McAfee Priority Support
070908 -      ..
070909 -     030814 1653 25 Minutes calling 900 328 4663....... $73.75
070910 -
070911 -                 Taxes                                    2.21
070912 -                                                       ---------
070913 -                                                        $75.96
070914 -
070915 -        [On 031019 John at McAfee filed a claim to recover erroneous
070916 -        billing on SBC invoice. ref SDS 15 GW5L
070918 -         ..
070919 -        [On 031020 Jason at McAfee is processing claim. ref SDS 16 DL5K
070921 -         ..
070922 -        [On 031026 received letter from McAfee notifying that a credit
070923 -        was issued to correct erroneous billing. ref SDS 15 0001
070925 -  ..
070926 - On 030814 at 1642 had to call McAfee technical support for assistance
070927 - using the McAfee online purchase system to upgrade virus definitions
070928 - on computer 12, because for some reason the online purchasing system,
070929 - which worked for computers, c11 and c13, failed when using c12.
070930 - ref SDS 9 0001,
070932 -  ..
070933 - Previously, on 030812 the same problem had occurred, ref SDS 6 FP6K,
070934 - and then occurred again the next day on 030813, when we purchased
070935 - McAfee virus definitions online for computer c11. ref SDS 7 0001
070937 -  ..
070938 - The following day on 030814 tried again to use McAfee online system to
070939 - purchase virus defintions and this time got a message to use a 900
070940 - number. ref SDS 9 SC9I
070942 -  ..
070943 - The McAfee engineer who answered the 900 call, Mayank Bhargava,
070944 - suggested that rather than access the online purchase system through
070945 - the McAfee virus protection program, which worked for c11 and c13, to
070946 - instead use an Internet address which Mayank provided. ref SDS 9 R040
070948 -  ..
070949 - Mayank confirmed this guidance in an email. ref SDS 9 UY4M
070951 -  ..
070952 - The record shows that this alternate method recommended by McAfee,
070953 - also, failed. ref SDS 9 U36N
070955 -  ..
070956 - A month later, on 030919, tried updating virus definitions on c12
070957 - again, using the standard program driven access method that previously
070958 - had failed on 030812, on 030813 and again on 030814, but on 030919
070959 - McAfee's online purchase system was successful. ref SDS 14 0001
070960 -
070961 -
070962 -
070963 -
070964 -
070965 -
070967 -  ..
0710 -
0711 -
0712 - 1416
0713 -
071301 - Called McAfee technical support...
071302 -
071303 -                         888 847 8766
071305 -  ..
071306 - There was a voice message saying to call....
071307 -
071308 -                         866 622 3911
071309 -
071311 -  ..
071312 - Talked to Mayleen Cadiz.
071313 -
071314 -
071315 -        [On 031019 John at McAfee filed a claim to recover erroneous
071316 -        billing on SBC invoice. ref SDS 15 GW5L
071317 -
071319 -  ..
071320 - Reviewed record showing there is no support for McAfee's claim of
071321 - providing special support on 030814 at telephone number
071323 -                              ..
071324 -                             900 328 4663
071326 -  ..
071327 - Asked who at McAfee claims such a call was made and what service was
071328 - performed that justifies a charge of $75?
071330 -  ..
071331 - Mayleen said her records do not show who performed services for McAfee
071332 - and what services were performed.
071334 -  ..
071335 - Mayleen said that McAfee has a form customers prepare to dispute
071336 - charges.  She will submit the form.
071337 -
071338 -        [On 031019 John at McAfee filed a claim to recover erroneous
071339 -        billing on SBC invoice. ref SDS 15 GW5L
071340 -
071341 -
071343 -  ..
0714 -
0715 -
0716 - 2055
0717 -
071701 - Received a letter from Mayleen saying...
071702 -
071703 -    1.  Subject: [Incident 031015-004153] payment dispute
071704 -        Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 14:29:11 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time)
071705 -        From: mcafeesupport@mcafee.com
071706 -        To: rodwelch@pacbell.net
071708 -         ..
071709 -    2.  Recently you requested personal assistance from our on-line
071710 -        support center. Below is a summary of your request and our
071711 -        response.
071713 -         ..
071714 -    3.  Thank you for allowing us to be of service to you.
071716 -         ..
071717 -    4.  Subject payment dispute
071719 -         ..
071720 -    5.  Discussion Thread
071721 -
071722 -        Response (Mayleen)    10/15/2003 02:29 PM
071723 -        Is this a 900 refund request? Y/N = y
071724 -        *If yes, put into Summary line "900 REFUND"
071725 -        *If 900 refund enter amount of refund: $76.00
071726 -        *If 900 refund enter number called: 1-900-328-4663
071728 -         ..
071729 -    6.  TECH SUPPORT ESCALATION FORM
071731 -         ..
071732 -    7.  Customer Information
071734 -         ..
071735 -    8.  Name:
071737 -         ..
071738 -    9.  Phone:
071740 -         ..
071741 -   10.  Best Time of Day to Call (eg: 9:00 AM to 11:00 AM Eastern
071742 -        Time):
071744 -         ..
071745 -   11.  Email Address:
071747 -         ..
071748 -   12.  Browser and Version:
071750 -         ..
071751 -   13.  Operating System:
071753 -         ..
071754 -   14.  Type of Connection:
071756 -         ..
071757 -   15.  Type of tech support already used:
071759 -         ..
071760 -   16.  Product:
071762 -         ..
071763 -   17.  Date of Download:
071765 -         ..
071766 -   18.  ISSUE (if virus related, include the name of the virus): n/a
071768 -         ..
071769 -   19.  Why is this issue an escalation rather than just a referral to
071770 -        tech support?
071772 -         ..
071773 -   20.  You may also update this question by replying to this message.
071774 -        Because your reply will be automatically processed, you MUST
071775 -        click 'REPLY' and then enter your reply in between the 'reply'
071776 -        lines provided at the bottom of this email. Text entered into
071777 -        any other part of this message will be discarded.
071779 -         ..
071780 -   21.  [===> Please enter your reply below this line <===]
071781 -
071782 -        Mayleen, above, has already entered the following....
071784 -         ..
071785 -        Is this a 900 refund request? Y/N = y
071786 -        *If yes, put into Summary line "900 REFUND"
071787 -        *If 900 refund enter amount of refund: $76.00
071788 -        *If 900 refund enter number called: 1-900-328-4663
071789 -
071790 -        a.  There are several errors in McAfee's work that reflect
071791 -            billing errors for which claim is being made on SBC's
071792 -            invoice for closing date 031005, as shown above.
071793 -            ref SDS 0 VX9G
071794 -
071795 -            1.  McAfee's explanation is incorrect that says in part....
071796 -
071797 -                    Recently you requested personal assistance from our
071798 -                    on-line support center. Below is a summary of your
071799 -                    request and our response, per above. ref SDS 0 XX8J
071801 -                 ..
071802 -                No "request" nor use of any kind was made the McAfee
071803 -                on-line support center.  As shown above, a call was
071804 -                placed to....
071805 -
071806 -                                   888 847 8766
071807 -
071808 -                ...and at that location, ref SDS 0 0204, there was a
071809 -                voice message saying to call instead....
071810 -
071811 -                                   866 622 3911
071812 -
071813 -
071814 -
071816 -         ..
071817 -   22.  [===> Please enter your reply above this line <===]
071819 -         ..
071820 -   23.  Thanks
071822 -         ..
071823 -   24.  Mayleen
071824 -        McAfee Security
071825 -
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