CONTACTS 
0201 - Bootstrap Institute
020101 - Mr. Douglas C. Engelbart, Ph.D.
0202 - Stanford University
020201 - Mr. Terry Winograd, PhD; Professor

SUBJECTS
Faith Gain Experience to Invest Limited Time Nobody Has Experience or
Cognitive Science Cultural Barrier to Advancing Beyond Information
Winograd, Terry Introduction Set Meeting Discuss Need for Education F
Cognitive Science Feared Object Lack Experience Lack Credibility Quac
Chompsky Grammer Innate Genetic Mental Capacity Reviewed with Landaue
SDS Combines Time Subject Structure of KM Design Unique Comprehensive
User Interface SDS Turns Structure Needed for KM into Useful Tool for
Culture of Knowledge Transition from Information Learn New Terms
Unique SDS Secret Industry Doesn't Know How to Design KM
Enabling Forces Breakthrough Latent Demand Changing to Patent, Doug E
Customers Comprehend Message Effective, David Stanfield
Engelbart, Doug Made Introduction Education Contact Teach Com Metrics

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4614 -    ..
4615 - Summary/Objective
4616 -
461601 - Follow up ref SDS 59 0000, ref SDS 41 0000.
461602 -
461603 - Reviewed educational challenge moving from an information society to a
461604 - culture of knowledge, explained in POIMS, ref OF 1 K84L, and reported
461605 - previously....
461606 -
461607 -     1.  Curriculum for literacy, communication, management and
461608 -         engineering is inadequate for new world order of information
461609 -         overload (see NWO, ref OF 2 2247) per discussion with Wharton
461610 -         on 950523. ref SDS 3 5548
461612 -            ..
461613 -           [On 011219 meeting at Stanford with Terry Winograd discussed
461614 -           advantages of SDS to improve learning, ref SDS 71 EE6G,
461616 -          ..
461617 -     2.  Legend of Prometheus demonstrates forces that suppress
461618 -         literacy in work force following formal education; SDS enables
461619 -         continual learning, reviewed on 991108. ref SDS 9 7380
461620 -         ..
461621 -     3.  Letter to Stanford Department Head Elisabeth
461622 -         Pate-Cornell on 000202. ref SDS 11 0867
461624 -          ..
461625 -     4.  Letter to Doug on 000303, ref DIP 2 2035, proposed focusing
461626 -         efforts to advance knowledge management by developing a
461627 -         curriculum of Communication Metrics for education. ref SDS 13
461628 -         0001
461630 -          ..
461631 -     5.  Telecon Doug on 000929 showing people have not gained ground
461632 -         understanding what is needed to advance beyond IT to develop
461633 -         and deploy KM. ref SDS 23 8Q8G
461634 -
461635 -           [On 011219 meeting with Terry Winograd discussed need for
461636 -           education to advance toward culture of knowledge.
461637 -           ref SDS 71 GS7I and ref SDS 71 3K3M
461639 -          ..
461640 -     6.  Letter to SRI on 001011 explaining ideas for research to
461641 -         advance goals for strengthening education. ref SDS 24 3Y2P
461643 -          ..
461644 -     7.  Telecon Elisabeth Pate-Cornell on 000901 to review POIMS
461645 -         toward improving curriculum. ref SDS 21 MI6O
461647 -          ..
461648 -     8.  Letter to Elisabeth on 000925. ref SDS 22 0001
461650 -          ..
461651 -     9.  SDS improves learning, reported on 010614. ref SDS 42 HD6O
461653 -          ..
461654 -    10.  Letter to OHS/DKR team on 011029 proposed educators teach use
461655 -         of SDS, ref DIP 1 NQ6H, so people have tools that enable
461656 -         continual learning. ref SDS 54 MT6G
461658 -  ..
461659 - We reviewed strong cultural resistance to improvement that needs a
461660 - critical mass of enabling forces, per our telecon on 011120.
461661 - ref SDS 59 H67I
461663 -  ..
461664 - Today, we discussed an educational role, per above, ref SDS 0 0001, is
461665 - essential for fostering a culture of knowledge, because...
461666 -
461667 -      1.  Cognitive science and study of anything related to cognitive
461668 -          resources beyond data and information is resisted, reported
461669 -          on 011129. ref SDS 62 VZ6O
461671 -           ..
461672 -      2.  Alphabet technology and other terminology from cognitive
461673 -          science like communication, listening, knowledge,
461674 -          intelligence, analysis, integrating time and information,
461675 -          investing intellectual capital, organizational memory, all
461676 -          seem to stop technologists, reported on 011208. ref SDS 65
461677 -          4Q5L and ref SDS 65 456G
461679 -  ..
461680 - Gary Johnson reports today research on Buckminster Fuller showing 50
461681 - years is required to introduce a paradigm. ref SDS 66 R66K
461683 -  ..
461684 - Doug said he has been working on this problem for 50 years and has not
461685 - hit on a direct solution for helping people overcome blinders caused
461686 - by cultural paradigms.  Since Doug has done 50 years of work, perhaps
461687 - enabling forces are forming to advance progress.
461689 -  ..
461690 - Engineers and people involved with technology seem to have the most
461691 - trouble thinking conceptually, because their discipline is
461692 - appropriately rooted in data for proof.  But, this tends to prevent
461693 - expansive perspectives that enable consideration of possibilities in
461694 - advance of proof.  These dynamics restrain efforts to think about what
461695 - to prove that falls outside existing data, preventing innovation,
461696 - noted previously by Clay Christensen, reviewed on 990527, ref SDS 8
461697 - 1221, and earlier by Landauer in his book "The Trouble with
461698 - Computers," reviewed on 950710. ref SDS 4 2004
461700 -  ..
461701 - Doug related work by Chompsky he has read on language and cognition,
461702 - which seems useful, but has not been subjected to formal proof by
461703 - data.
461705 -  ..
461706 - Some of Chompsky's work proposing grammer is an innate genetic
461707 - capacity was reviewed on 960324 in connection with Landauer's work on
461708 - LSA. ref SDS 5 V65N  Chompsky is mentioned again in connection with
461709 - characterizing information as "chunks," in the record on 011006.
461710 - ref SDS 52 WH5N
461712 -  ..
461713 - Doug explained there is a professor at Stanford, Terry Winograd, who
461714 - has published in this area.
461716 -  ..
461717 - He offered to make an introduction for the purpose of meeting to
461718 - discuss opportunities for strengthening education.
461720 -  ..
461721 - Doug, also, suggested contacting Marcello Hoffman at SRI who is
461722 - working on helping clients with business intelligence and knowledge
461723 - management.  Mentioned brief discussion with Marcello at Doug's party
461724 - on 010522, ref SDS 40 NF8K, honoring Ted Nelson for his award by
461725 - France on technology achievements, similar to Doug being awarded the
461726 - National Medal for Technology by the United States, reported on
461727 - 001114. ref SDS 31 0001
461728 -
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461731 -      Education Curriculum SDS Recommended Unique Comprehensive Tool
461732 -      SDS Unique Comprehensive Recommended for Education Curriculum
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462201 -  ..
462202 - Received ref DRT 1 0001 from Doug to Terry saying.....
462203 -
462204 -      I've known Rod Welch now for almost two years; he's spent a good
462205 -      many years focussing on improved ways to manage information-
462206 -      knowledge, developing a quite comprehensive and unique tool
462207 -      system and associated working methodology.  He would like the
462208 -      opportunity to see if what he's learned could fit into academia,
462209 -      in concepts and/or practices.
462211 -           ..
462212 -          Doug's support for SDS and Com Metrics aligns with favorable
462213 -          comments he made on....
462214 -
462215 -             Likes SDS wants open source........000929, ref SDS 23 8Q8G
462216 -             SDS best KM method he has seen.....001027. ref SDS 28 XV6F
462218 -           ..
462219 -          Aligns with analysis on 000425, ref SDS 16 0480, and with
462220 -          favorable comments about SDS records on the Internet reported
462221 -          on 010907, ref SDS 44 KX3L, including new letter received
462222 -          today shortly after getting Doug's letter to Terry, per
462223 -          below. ref SDS 0 YL5K  On 000405 Jack Park described SDS as
462224 -          "really slick". ref SDS 14 4862  A few days ago on 011208
462225 -          Jack could not name other software programs that support the
462226 -          SDS design, ref SDS 65 FV5H, which he described in a letter
462227 -          to the OHS/DKR group on 001130 has the right structure for
462228 -          knowledge and the user interface that makes the structure
462229 -          useful to people. ref SDS 33 NQ43
462230 -
462231 -              [On 050118 Henry van Eykan notes limited availability of
462232 -              tools for augmenting intelligence. ref SDS 72 D23G
462234 -  ..
462235 - Doug continues....
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462238 - Doug continues....
462239 -
462240 -      Assuming that what you've done and learned since your '82 book
462241 -      would have evolved a substantial amount of overlap/experience of
462242 -      mutual relevance to Rod's, I've suggested to him that he contact
462243 -      you.  He'll await a positive email response before contacting
462244 -      you.
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462601 - Received ref DRT 2 0001 from Terry saying....
462602 -
462603 -      Nice to hear from you, and thanks for the connection. I'll be
462604 -      glad to talk with Rod.  My time is a bit more flexible after exam
462605 -      week ends (this week), so if you (Rod) send a note with availble
462606 -      times we can find one that works.
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463001 - Submitted ref DIT 1 0001 thanking Doug for the introduction to Terry,
463002 - and providing background on challenges we discussed earlier on
463003 - cognitive science, ref DIT 1 IJ5N, per above, ref SDS 0 PL6O,
463005 -  ..
463006 - Also, shared discussion with Jack Park on planning to review alphabet
463007 - technology, ref DIT 1 NM6K, after considerable back and forth.
463008 - ref SDS 0 8O7L
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463401 - Submitted ref DIT 3 0001 to Terry thanking him for his timely letter,
463402 - per above, ref SDS 0 A89F, offering to meet next week, responding to
463403 - Doug's introduction. ref SDS 0 JL5I
463404 -
463405 -      [On 011212 sent follow up to Terry. ref SDS 68 0001
463407 -       ..
463408 -      [On 011213 Terry asks questions about SDS. ref SDS 69 0001
463410 -       ..
463411 -      [On 011219 meeting at Stanford with Terry Winograd discussed
463412 -      advantages of SDS to improve learning, ref SDS 71 EE6G,
463414 -  ..
463415 - Explain
463416 -
463417 -    1.  Jury duty is scheduled for next week, as reported on 011128,
463418 -        ref SDS 61 0001, but will likely not be impaneled, so propose
463419 -        setting tentative meeting between 011219 - 011221 (Wed - Fri)
463420 -        at Terry's convenience. ref DIT 3 R86F  If jury duty occurs, we
463421 -        can re-schedule.
463422 -        ..
463423 -    2.  Purpose of meeting is to explore nexus between education
463424 -        and advance in basic literacy using SDS, ref DIT 3 P97F, as
463425 -        explained in POIMS, ref OF 1 0001, and reviewed in history set
463426 -        out above. ref SDS 0 0001
463427 -
463428 -           [On 011216 Terry describes SDS records as "mini-essays"
463429 -           linked into chronologies of cause and effect. ref SDS 70
463430 -           0001
463432 -         ..
463433 -    3.  Entails integrating management, technology and cognitive
463434 -        science, ref DIT 3 JS7L, explained to Elisabeth Pate-Cornell on
463435 -        000202, ref SDS 11 IW7I, again on 000901, ref SDS 21 MI6O, and
463436 -        further shown in POIMS (don't click on any links first time
463437 -        through, and if you do, don't go more than 2 levels before
463438 -        clicking back to resume the story).
463439 -        ..
463440 -    4.  Engine of civilization is alphabet technology that
463441 -        enables IT (meetings, calls, email, books, etc.), ref DIT 3
463442 -        QI8G, and discussed with Elisabeth Pate-Cornell on 000901.
463443 -        ref SDS 21 HK6I  We want to move from information to a culture
463444 -        of knowledge, and believe that education is a vital enabling
463445 -        force.  As well, we need input from experts like you.
463447 -         ..
463448 -    5.  We know this is a tough gig, per letter from professor Ransdell
463449 -        on 000716, ref SDS 20 7838, but SDS makes it possible, so the
463450 -        responsible thing to do is to investigate how to grease the
463451 -        wheels of progress. Again education is critical. ref DIT 3 WL8M
463453 -         ..
463454 -    6.  If they are available, I would like Doug and Jack Park to
463455 -        attend, so by copy am etting them know of our discussion.
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SUBJECTS
Enabling Forces Sun Breaking Through Demand Grows for Intelligence Su
Endorsements Evaluation SDS Market Potential
Ready for SDS Windows Version Morris Asks if there is Demand
Enabling Forces Breakthrough Latent Demand Changing to Patent, Doug E

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560702 - Sun Breaking Through Due to Enabling Forces Grows Demand Intelligence
560703 - Intelligence Demand Growing Enabling Forces Sun Breaking Through
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561201 - Submitted ref DIT 2 0001 to Doug transmitting a copy of a letter
561202 - received from a customer asking about SDS as a result of bumping into
561203 - SDS records on the Internet. ref SDS 67 0001  Illustrates fervor of
561204 - demand for intelligence enabled by SDS, listed in the record on
561205 - 010907. ref SDS 44 KX3L, which is growing under new realities of a new
561206 - world order discussed with Doug on 011120, ref SDS 59 H67I, and
561207 - earlier on 011003. ref SDS 50 EC5N
561209 -  ..
561210 - It, also, further demonstrates ability of customers to recognize SDS
561211 - has a unique solution, ref SDS 67 HK6H, as Doug relates in his letter
561212 - to Terry today, per above. ref SDS 0 JL5I
561214 -  ..
561215 - Explain need for allies to discuss and foster broader awareness in
561216 - their organization, per letter to Jack Park on 011206. ref SDS 64 JP4F
561218 -  ..
561219 - We just have isolated bright stars, ref DIT 2 NR6J, like the person
561220 - who writes in today, per review of Jeff Conklin's work on 010420.
561221 - ref SDS 36 YY5J It takes study, recommended by Andy Grove, and
561222 - experience using SDS, recommended in letter to Jack Park on 011206,
561223 - ref SDS 64 4Z4M, to be able to go to the boss and explain how adding
561224 - intelligence improves earnings.
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561227 - When latent demand bubbles up, all is not bleak; the sun is trying to
561228 - break through. ref DIT 2 KR7F
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