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CONTACTS
0201 - Armstrong Consulting 650 845 1782
020101 - Mr. Eric Armstrong
020102 - eric.armstrong@eng.sun.com
0202 - Bootstrap Institute 510 713 3550
020201 - Mr. Henry van Eykan; Webmaster =450 562 9618
020202 - vaneyken@sympatico.ca
0203 - Bootstrap Institute 510 713 3550
020301 - Mr. Douglas C. Engelbart, Ph.D.
020302 - doug@bootstrap.org
SUBJECTS
OHS Repository Not Toolset
Toolset Eric Never Conceived OHS as Toolset
Define Scope OHS, 001025
Accountability by Linking
Phase II OHS Full Features Extends Hyperscope Scope
OHS Overview Based on Telecon with Doug
Link Comments to Anchors in Launch Plan
Capability Infrastructure Tool System and Humand System, OHS Overview
OHS Overivew Tool+Human Systems Evolve Based on Evolutionary Psycholo
Evolve Proactive School Pushes Children to Evolve
Psychologically Demanding to Discover Error Constantly
3113 - ..
3114 - Summary/Objective
3115 -
311501 - Follow up ref SDS 40 0000, ref SDS 39 0000.
311502 -
311503 - Henry van Eykan makes a strong case for Doug's goal to improve human
311504 - competence in solving complex problems by co-evolving human and tool
311505 - system. Henry provides a framework to show how tools augment human
311506 - capabilities, which Eric Armstrong questioned yesterday. Henry
311507 - cautions that more stringent attention to "truth" is stressful.
311508 - ref SDS 0 JN4K
311509 -
311510 - In sum, tools can augment human intelligence, per analysis of Eric's
311511 - letter yesterday, ref SDS 40 P36G, and the letter to the team on
311512 - 001102, ref DIP 1 007O, also, explained in the record on the same day.
311513 - ref SDS 31 FG6O
311514 -
311515 -
311516 -
311517 -
311518 - ..
3116 -
3117 - Progress
3118 -
311801 - ..
311802 - Human Systems Enables by Tool Systems
311803 - Overview Not Compelling, Reaches Too Far to Improve Human Systems
311804 -
311805 - Follow up ref SDS 40 M3PW.
311806 -
311807 - Received ref DRT 1 0001 from Henry van Eykan responding to Eric
311808 - Armstrong's letter, ref DRP 7 0001, on 001121, ref SDS 40 M3PW,
311809 - commenting on the OHS Overview, ref DRP 6 0002, submitted by Frode
311810 - Hegland in a letter to the team, also, on 001121. ref DRP 6 0001
311811 -
311812 - This supplements Henry's letter yesterday explaining Doug wrote on
311813 - human and tool systems in 1962. ref DRP 9 0001
311814 - ..
311815 - Frode requested comments, ref DRP 6 CO6F, and Eric responded
311816 - that advancing human systems is not a compelling objective or vision
311817 - for the project. ref SDS 40 M3PW
311818 -
311819 - Henry comments...
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311821 - Evolutionary psychology holds that underneath new culture lies old
311822 - psychology. Humankind has adapted to changes in culture (see first
311823 - word of this sentence) and artifacts. I don't think there is much
311824 - quarrel about this part. ref DRT 1 N86M
311825 -
311826 - Next part, "pushed to evolve" or stimulating evolution.
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311829 - ..
311830 - When we send out children off to school, aren't we
311831 - stimulating them to evolve? Isn't it the school experience in
311832 - addition to natural maturation giving them a different outlook on
311833 - life, behave differently, more quickly and more self-assuredly
311834 - adapting themselves to societal life, and in some way gaining some
311835 - control over their relationship between self and family and friends
311836 - and larger social circles? Aren't school and work, visits to new
311837 - places, and meeting new people experiences that add value to the
311838 - human system in the sense that it can perform better? ref DRT 1
311839 - 008I
311840 -
311841 - School might be said to evolve a community, but may not
311842 - actually evolve underlying biology.
311843 -
311844 - Aren't education and experience giving us better tools in hand and
311845 - in head? In a way, aren't human systems to a large extend tool
311846 - systems as well? (Maybe we are contemplating a bit too sharp a
311847 - dichotomy between human system and tool system. When we "get hold
311848 - of ourself," we have a human system acting on the very self as a
311849 - tool system. Company's employees are largely paid for because of
311850 - their "tool status." When I took my dose of Economics 101, I
311851 - resented labor being treated as part of a demand-and-supply
311852 - system.), ref DRT 1 G98F
311853 - ..
311854 - Creating a "working dichotomy" between human system and tool
311855 - system seems to me very useful when looking at human beings
311856 - enhancing their talents with computers. At this point, I feel
311857 - compelled to first think of the human psyche as part emotional,
311858 - part rational. I further understand that incoming signals to the
311859 - brain may follow two rather distinct kinds of pathways: one via our
311860 - emotional center, another bypassing it. ref DRT 1 004Q
311861 -
311862 -
311863 - ..
311864 - Truth and Logic Psychologocially, Emotionally Devastating
311865 -
311866 - Henry says that cognition has an emotional component. Fine-grained
311867 - cognition will have grains in them with different blends of the
311868 - rational and the emotional. That's the nature of the beast. Hence,
311869 - when we seek to augment with computers, this realization calls for
311870 - extra care because the human organism may revolt at facing the
311871 - truth. Truth, logic can be devastating. ref DRT 1 H69N
311872 -
311873 - This is why a Com Manager is needed per NWO... ref OF 2 0468
311874 -
311875 - Not everyone can withstand the emotional burden occassioned by
311876 - an environment that boggles the mind, as Eric Armstrong noted
311877 - in his letter on 000125. ref SDS 10 3867 reviewed again on
311878 - 000505. ref SDS 18 4524
311879 -
311880 - [On 001127 letter to Eric Armstrong cites emotional toll of
311881 - greater command of the record. ref SDS 42 SL6M
311882 -
311883 -
311884 - ..
311885 - Tools Augment Human Mental Capacity, Example Calculator
311886 -
311887 - There is little doubt in my mind that we can augment the rational
311888 - aspect of humans so as to stimulate it to perform at higher levels
311889 - of the cognitive domain. Or maybe I should say that it will
311890 - "waste" less time on the lower levels (doing longhand division, for
311891 - example) and thereby become more productive. Doug's Air Force"
311892 - proposal of 1962 has computers stimulating the mind in faster, more
311893 - productive action by replacing a slow proces of people internally
311894 - creating a picture by having computers concretize it for them -
311895 - showing them the effects on a display terminal. The evolution is
311896 - not so much in the human system as it is in how the human system
311897 - performs. ref DRT 1 00EJ
311898 - ..
311899 - That is an evolution that, methinks, can be stimulated by
311900 - purposeful design. (If you have the patience and time, may I refer
311901 - you to
311902 -
311903 - http://www.fleabyte.org/testbed/augment.html
311904 -
311905 - where, without knowing even the name Engelbart, I essayed on just a
311906 - little part of all the things Doug has been saying. And this sort
311907 - of thinking is why I feel at ease with him.), ref DRT 1 PA5J
311908 -
311909 - ..
311910 - OHS, Doug Propose Incremental Advance Based on Contiual Feedback
311911 -
311912 - One more word here. Doug's purposeful design is not one that takes
311913 - big risks by making big leaps. No Big-Brother Masterplan putting
311914 - everyone at risk. His notion is to tread carefully, but decisively
311915 - with as continuous a feedback as possible so as to avoid breaking
311916 - the dishes. ref DRT 1 00GP
311917 -
311918 - ..
311919 - Henry answers Eric's specific questions...
311920 -
311921 - 1. Q. Will the human system go on as before unchanged? ref DRP 7
311922 - SJ8G
311923 -
311924 - A. Quick answer: that old psychology remains unchanged, but as
311925 - a working agent adapts to forever changing LAM/H for survival.
311926 - (LAM/H is Doug's synopsis for language, artifacts, methods in
311927 - the human system.), ref DRT 1 00AP
311928 -
311929 - Henry's analysis aligns with letter to the team on 001102,
311930 - ref DIP 1 007O, also, explained in the record on the same
311931 - day. ref SDS 31 FG6O, that SDS augments human intelligence.
311932 - ..
311933 - 2. Q. Will the human system evolve naturally in the new
311934 - environment? ref DRP 7 IR7K
311935 -
311936 - A. That old psychology will only over those long periods that
311937 - are part and parcel of natural evolution. Don't expect any
311938 - change here over the next century or so. But the way the
311939 - psychology lets us behave will, and fast (think of "crazes,"
311940 - for example, or oppressive regimes for another; the effect of
311941 - masses' conduct on individual behavior and convictions).
311942 - ref DRT 1 RS3O
311943 - ..
311944 - Q. Eric continues the question with "If so, the evolution
311945 - that will take place is worth mentioning in a companion piece,
311946 - but it is not an integral part of the system that is being
311947 - proposed."
311948 -
311949 - A. Going back to my point that the human system is partly also
311950 - within his tool system, that make29i- an integral part.
311951 - ..
311952 - 3. Q. Is the proposal seriously attempting to change human
311953 - systems simultaneously with a change in technology? ref DRP 7
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311955 -
311956 - A. I believe the question is less of "attempting to" than
311957 - "expecting " Then the answer would be "yes." ref DRT 1 015T
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