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S U M M A R Y
DIARY: May 3, 2000 03:37 PM Wednesday;
Rod Welch
Call Mike Wirth and Jack Park about Com Metrics.
1...Summary/Objective
2...SDS Core Capability for KM; SRI Develop Add-on DKR Features
.....Disagreement About Knowledge Repository
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CONTACTS
0201 - IBM Almaden Research Center
020101 - Mr. Michael C. Wirth, Ph.D.; Manager USR Software
020103 - ser Systems Ergonomics Research
SUBJECTS
Sponsor/Stakeholder Planning
IBM, SDS Trial with OS2 in Boca
Alliances on Development
Killer App, What Testing, Study to Discover Useful Technology
Killer Application = Entertainment + Useful
IBM Almaden Research Center
Education Online Digital v. Paper Books
Spohrer, Jim's Work Cited on Electronic Books
SDS Presentation to IBM Almaden Research Center, Planning
Wirth, Mike Letter on SDS Presentation to IBM Mentions Jim's Ideas on
1612 -
1612 - ..
1613 - Summary/Objective
1614 -
161401 - Follow up ref SDS 28 0000, ref SDS 24 0000.
161402 -
161403 - Mike recognized unique capability from at SDS record on the web, but
161404 - has not time to review POIMS. ref SDS 0 2856 He proposes luncheon
161405 - presentation, and requested an email reminder to schedule. Jack
161406 - suggests submitting proposal on SDS to DKR team, based on analysis of
161407 - Eric's work last week, showing idea to develop core capability as
161408 - proprietary tool, and license to SRI team for developing add-on
161409 - features of a broad scale DKR. ref SDS 0 0252
161411 - ..
161412 - Submitted ref DIT 1 0001 to Jack on proposal issue. ref SDS 0 6789
161413 -
161414 - [On 000504 called and discussed with Eric. ref SDS 33 0001
161415 -
161416 - [...called and discussed with Jack. ref SDS 33 7553
161418 - ..
161419 - Submitted ref DIT 2 0001 to Mike Wirth on visiting with IBM.
161420 -
161421 - [On 000508 called and left follow up message for Mike; sent letter
161422 - to Jim Spohrer. ref SDS 36 0001
161423 -
161424 - [On 000624 submitted seminary proposal. ref SDS 40 0001
161425 -
161427 - ..
1615 -
1616 -
1617 - Discussion
1618 -
161801 - Mike answered and said he was favorably impressed by the record on the
161802 - Internet for the meeting at SRI on 000413, ref SDS 20 0001, submitted
161803 - by my letter, ref DIP 1 0001, on 000419. ref SDS 21 0001
161805 - ..
161806 - He has not had time to review POIMS following my voice mail and
161807 - letter, ref DIP 2 0001, on 000426, ref SDS 28 0001, and our earlier
161808 - discussion on 000421. ref SDS 24 0001
161810 - ..
161811 - Mike will try to review POIMS, ref OF 1 0001, in the period ahead.
161812 - ..
161813 - I mentioned heightened interest in visiting IBM based on Jim
161814 - Spohrer's thoughtful comments about resistance to the growing role of
161815 - online books reported on 000419. ref SDS 23 4782 It is a precursor to
161816 - the battle that lies ahead to provide online "management information,"
161817 - such as this record, which is essential for Enterprise Management and
161818 - the hoped for benefits of the virtual office.
161820 - ..
161821 - Mike will schedule a time for me to present my work to his group at
161822 - their Thursday brown bag lunch event. Probably not next week, but
161823 - maybe in a couple weeks.
161825 - ..
161826 - He asked me to send him an email reminder.
161828 - ..
161829 - Submitted ref DIT 2 0001 linked to this record. Cited the record on
161830 - 000419 showing alignment with Jim's ideas, ref SDS 23 4782, and
161831 - benefits of Knowledge Space. ref OF 1 1107
161832 -
161833 -
161834 -
161835 -
161836 -
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1619 -
SUBJECTS
Customer Requests for Information
Proposal Ideas, Terms, Scope of Services
SRI DKR Project, 000503
Alliances on Development
License Agreement
Planning Next Version
Proposal on License
SDS Schedule Diary System, 000227
Bootstrap Strategies, 000227
SDS KM Project, License to SRI for DKR, Rod
Open Source Project with SDS Ideas Submitted
3613 -
361401 - ..
361402 - SDS Core Capability for KM; SRI Develop Add-on DKR Features
361403 -
361404 - Follow up ref SDS 32 0001.
361405 -
3615 -
3616 -
3617 - 1552 called Jack Park
3619 - ..
361901 - Reviewed issues from discussion on 000426. ref SDS 28 1404
361903 - ..
361904 - Discussed Eric's views similar to mine on license and business model
361905 - for DKR, related in his letter on 000423. ref SDS 26 2214
361907 - ..
361908 - Eric's explanation that the objective of the DKR is to augment human
361909 - intelligence, also on 000423, aligns with POIMS. ref SDS 26 5933 Later
361910 - today, Eric notes that support is needed for understanding "knowledge
361911 - repository" in order to build something. ref SDS 32 5033
361913 - ..
361914 - These conditions suggest that Eric's limited and valuable time, and
361915 - his willingness to work on developing a core KM capability, can yield
361916 - better results applied to implementing SDS, which already solves the
361917 - core design issue of Knowledge Space, which Jack cites in an exchange
361918 - of letters with Eric earlier today. ref SDS 32 6138
361920 - ..
361921 - Discussed prospect of defining a narrow core capability, SDS in its
361922 - present form, and assembling a team of Eric and Jack to create it in
361923 - an XML or other desired form; then license to Doug's DKR team for
361924 - developing add-ons, set out in the record on 000423. ref SDS 26 8000
361926 - ..
361927 - This agreement would enable Jack and Eric to use the SDS program for a
361928 - year or so to learn how about Knowledge Management. After gaining
361929 - experience, planning and would could commence on a new generation for
361930 - the SDS program.
361932 - ..
361933 - Jack feels the SDS record provides a basis for mathematics to develop
361934 - AI operations on historical record.
361935 -
361936 - [On 000505 Eric includes mathematical analysis in the specs for
361937 - the new editor. ref SDS 34 2166
361938 -
361939 - [On 000601 Eric cites Jack's objective in section on "Relational"
361940 - that extends "mathematical" features in requirements spec.
361941 - ref SDS 38 4967
361943 - ..
361944 - [On 001130 Jack submits ideas to improve SDS with ontology.
361945 - ref SDS 44 0001
361947 - ..
361948 - This idea was posed to LANL as a secondary objective for research,
361949 - reported on 000331, ref SDS 18 5711, and in the record on 000314,
361950 - ref SDS 14 2838, citing consideration of computational linguistics
361951 - from NSF review on 991213, ref SDS 9 3234, On 000428 Jack suggested
361952 - that Henry attend the meeting with LANL based on Cliff having posed an
361953 - idea for mathematical research into KM, which Jack assigned to Henry.
361954 - ref SDS 29 5358 Henry's expertise in mathematics offers an
361955 - opportunity to explore that aspect with Cliff in the meeting with LANL
361956 - planned for early June.
361958 - ..
361959 - Tom Landauer's work on Latent Semantic Analysis (LSA) uses a direct
361960 - mathematical approach to derive meaning from text, on 960324.
361961 - ref SDS 3 8599 On 960221 Tom commented on Com Metrics. ref SDS 2 6633
361962 - I requested his support for the proposal to NSF last year, but he was
361963 - busy with a venture of his own, per record on 990706. ref SDS 7 7632
361965 - ..
361966 - Jack recalls encountering Tom's work.
361968 - ..
361969 - Jack feels LANL might be willing to support Henry's research based on
361970 - using the SDS record.
361972 - ..
361973 - I mentioned Cliff's interest in a meeting to see SDS, now around the
361974 - first week in June, per Cliff's letter yesterday. ref SDS 30 0001
361976 - ..
361977 - The larger opportunity for Doug's DKR team is to work on developing
361978 - implementation capability listed in reviewing Eric's analysis of the
361979 - business model on 000423. ref SDS 26 8000 Using SDS as a foundation,
361980 - the DKR could provide a comprehensive Enterprise Management solution
361981 - based on planning for NSF proposal, reported on 990427, ref SDS 6
361982 - 7503, and for the DKR project on 000324. ref SDS 16 7482
361983 -
361984 - [On 001031 Jack Park discusses this idea. ref SDS 43 TX7J
361986 - ..
361987 - [On 001130 Jack submits ideas to improve SDS with ontology.
361988 - ref SDS 44 0001
361990 - ..
361991 - [On 010201 Jack submits general description for new venture using
361992 - SDS with open source. ref SDS 45 0001
361994 - ..
361995 - [On 010205 Alon Schwarz indicated open source excellent for
361996 - developing improvements; less effective for achieving
361997 - breakthrough of core design. ref SDS 46 VNE4
361999 - ..
362000 - [On 010622 notified Jack about possible assignment where he can
362001 - collaborate on SDS and KM. ref SDS 47 VH4M
362003 - ..
362004 - This would endow the SRI DKR team with the capability to address world
362005 - problems cited on 000120 as the goal of the project. ref SDS 10 1215
362006 - It can use open source processes to accomplish this development once
362007 - the underlying structure of a knowledge engine is established by SDS.
362009 - ..
362010 - A two phase development plan could be used as show on 950803.
362011 - ref SDS 1 M4DY
362012 -
362013 - 1. Update Morris' C Medit program so SDS in its present form can
362014 - be used by DKR development team - 3 to 12 month effort.
362015 -
362016 - 2. Use SDS to develop XML or any other rendering, per Eric's
362017 - planning on 000423 - 1 - 2 year effort. ref SDS 26 4933
362019 - ..
362020 - Of course anyone who wishes can use the whole thing right now,
362021 - if so desired.
362023 - ..
362024 - SDS provides platform for Knowledge Management, similar to the way the
362025 - alphabet is the platform for information management, and thereby
362026 - enables....
362027 -
362028 - 1. DKR team develop Add-ons, ref SDS 26 8000, using open source
362029 - and open standard mechanisms, and implements problem solving
362030 - environment by providing a unique "intelligence" gathering
362031 - capability, per Doug's letter on 000419. ref SDS 22 1008
362033 - ..
362034 - [On 000601 Paul Fernhout proposes open source project to
362035 - create record management for SDS records on the Internet,
362036 - which may entail "ontology" stuff. ref SDS 37 0035
362038 - ..
362039 - [On 000602 Jack is anxious to begin work on open source
362040 - ontology tools. ref SDS 39 2496
362042 - ..
362043 - [On 000725 meeting with Pat Lincoln at SRI on development
362044 - project. ref SDS 41 1056
362046 - ..
362047 - [On 000726 Jack submits proposed business plan. ref SDS 42
362048 - 0050
362050 - ..
362051 - 2. Commensurate with this will be need for formal education on a
362052 - new work discipline to generate and manage "intelligence," as
362053 - explained in the NWO... ref OF 3 6369 proposed in the letter
362054 - to the Colloquium on 000317. ref SDS 15 0005
362056 - ..
362057 - These three elements...
362058 -
362059 - 1. Knowledge core processor, SDS.
362060 -
362061 - Owned and licensed by team, Rod, Morris, others....
362062 -
362063 - 2. Enterprise Management environment created through open source
362064 - add ons, per Eric on 000423. ref SDS 26 8000
362066 - ..
362067 - Applications...
362068 -
362069 - IT, per Eric on 000227. ref SDS 12 1248
362070 -
362071 - Health, per 991028 reviewing Kaiser op. ref SDS 8 8499
362072 -
362073 - Construction, per USACE on 970418, ref SDS 4 3368, cost
362074 - savings reported on 971008. ref SDS 5 2979
362076 - ..
362077 - Research, LANL on 000331. ref SDS 18 9797
362079 - ..
362080 - 3. Education and training for "intelligence" role, per letter to
362081 - Doug Engelbart on 000301. ref SDS 13 0001
362082 -
362083 - ...will support Doug's ABC improvement model.
362085 - ..
362086 - A predicate to this is forming a team of people to do the work and
362087 - share in the ownership of SDS, and getting front-end investment to pay
362088 - for development. If we could get Morris to join this team, the cost
362089 - and time to completion (market) would be greatly reduced.
362091 - ..
362092 - This proposition must return revenue to Welch, and others who do the
362093 - work. Eric put forward some license ideas on 000423 that can be
362094 - further structured through negotiation to accomplish the aims of Doug,
362095 - SRI, and the project team.
362097 - ..
362098 - Jack feels a proposal should be made to the DKR team.
362099 -
362100 - [On 000726 Jack submits draft business model for commercial and
362101 - open source entity to develop SDS. ref SDS 42 0001
362102 -
362103 - [On 010201 Jack submits general description for new venture
362104 - using SDS with open source. ref SDS 45 0001
362106 - ..
362107 - He and Eric might be willing to support it.
362109 - ..
362110 - We reviewed notice to Doug about this opportunity on 000301.
362111 - ref SDS 13 0001 On 000327 discussed with Doug in a telecon the idea
362112 - that his objective can be achieved by a significant innovation,
362113 - ref SDS 17 9975 Doug was not receptive. On 000407 specific ideas for
362114 - obtaining sponsor support were submitted. ref SDS 19 0001 Lack of
362115 - response, indicates limited bandwidth cited by Doug on 000223,
362116 - ref SDS 11 4992, which typically requires help by trusted colleagues
362117 - and associates to get someone important to slow down long enough to
362118 - learn how to speed up.
362120 - ..
362121 - Jack advised of experience with NIH to obtain grant funding for
362122 - important medical research, similar to problems NSF encountered on SDS
362123 - review, reported on 000422 analysing Paul Fernhout's idea to fund key
362124 - research with government grants. ref SDS 25 3900
362126 - ..
362127 - Jack's proposal to NIH was turned down because the reviewer maintained
362128 - that Jack's home on the peninsula, was too far away from a major
362129 - university.
362131 - ..
362132 - Jack suggested I discuss this with Eric.
362133 -
362134 -
362136 - ..
3622 -
3623 -
3624 - 2153 contacted Eric
3625 -
362501 - Sent Eric a regular email asking him to call when he has time to
362502 - discuss a proposal.
362503 -
362504 - [On 000504 Eric called. ref SDS 33 0001
362506 - ..
362507 - [On 000508 discussed with Eric. ref SDS 35 0897
362508 -
362510 - ..
3626 -
3627 -
3628 - 2213 received letter from Eric
3629 -
362901 - Received ref DRT 1 0001 from Eric responding to my email asking him
362902 - to call about moving ahead on KM issues for DKR, saying...
362904 - ..
362905 - Disagreement About Knowledge Repository
362906 -
362907 - Just leaving now. I'll call tomorrow afternoon, or maybe we can
362908 - discuss things Friday. I'm afraid I'm in a heated situation with
362909 - Jack, and I'm not there is any resolution anywhere in sight. At
362910 - least now it's clear where the disagreement lies (what is a
362911 - knowledge repository). But I'm not going to try to build all of
362912 - that, and it seems he's not willing to build anything less. I've
362913 - got to find a way to ease this thing down and find areas we can
362914 - agree on. Just not sure how to go about it... ref DRT 1 0001
362916 - ..
362917 - This aligns with Eric's letter to Jack earlier today noting a
362918 - miscommunication about meaning of KM. ref SDS 32 0672 The larger
362919 - issue is that no effort has been made to define "knowledge" per Eric,
362920 - also yesterday. ref SDS 32 5033
362921 -
362922 -
362924 - ..
3630 -
3631 -
3632 - 2338 letter to Jack
3633 -
363301 - Submitted ref DIT 1 0001 linked to this record, and suggest that Jack
363302 - explore receptiveness of a proposal for this scope, to help address
363303 - problem of limited bandwidth. ref SDS 0 6732
363305 - ..
363309 -
363310 - [On 000504 called and discussed with Jack. ref SDS 33 7553
363311 -
363312 - [On 000508 discussed with Jack. ref SDS 35 6298
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